A simple question?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by the6peace8keeper, Sep 15, 2005.

  1. the6peace8keeper

    the6peace8keeper Born Again Satanist

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    Is reality simply perception?
     
  2. HippyLandscaper

    HippyLandscaper learning a new way

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    only if that's how you percieve it
     
  3. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    nope .
     
  4. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    im gonna go with nope too.
     
  5. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    fucking hell yeah it is.

    How can any of you people say no?
     
  6. Rigamarole

    Rigamarole Senior Member

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    lol, great answer
     
  7. cyn

    cyn Member

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    your reality may be my fantasy...and vicee versee..
    Reality is relative.

    Things are definatly not as they seem.
     
  8. depends on what you mean by reality


    if you mean trees and air and birds then they are "real" solid, matter, material, they are energy so they exist


    as for ideas? money, laws, property, all beliefs, perceptions


    of course there are ideas that are real,

    math and things like that

    but whenever someone says "it's the real world" it probably isn't.....
     
  9. Oz!

    Oz! Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Would you cease to be real without the use of your senses?
     
  10. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    Question is ... would he cease to be real without the use of your senses?
     
  11. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    How would you know they existed if you couldn't see/hear/touch/smell/taste them?

    If you had no ability to 'know' them how could they exist.

    Remember that perception is a strictly human thing with a strictly human definition.
     
  12. there are insensates in the world, I still exist......


    if I do not have data on a subject that does not mean it does not exist, the reason existentialism so serves so many is the sheer arrogance of the philosophy.......


    empathy disproves it real fast, especially true empathy
     
  13. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    The fact that there are people who do not know you exist only serves my point.

    If you do not know that 2+2=4 then you do not know it. It has more to do with knowledge 'of' a thing than it does with the thing itself, simply because 'a thing itself' is only what it is because someone 'realizes' it. The word realize, by definition, shows us that much.

    existentialism isn't arrogant. Existentialism tells us that we make up shit because there is nothing else except our thoughts that 'realize'.

    And empathy doesn't disprove existentialism. Marleau-Ponty would have come up with that. And he didn't.
     
  14. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Realitys what'cha tell yourself so you can get outta bed in the morning.

    None of that for me. :D
     
  15. lodui knows things I don't, I'm real, he's real and so reality exists.....
     
  16. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    circles man, circles.
     
  17. proofs are circles
     
  18. Raving Sultan

    Raving Sultan Banned

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    reality slaps you in face when you dont wake up in the morning and you dont have money to pay bills. thats when you realize that no amount of wishful thinking is gonna put food in your stomach.
     
  19. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    yeah, good and all except what I was trying to say is that that post was a diversion. You were not answering the questions but turning to others for some reason or another. (I'm kind enough not to mention the reasons, but you and I both know them)








    oh yeah, hows my personality coming along in your books?
     
  20. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    Four words ...

    prostitution.
     
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