Human Arrogance

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by corduroy, Sep 13, 2005.

  1. corduroy

    corduroy Member

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    I think it is human arrogance to believe that we have a personal god that cares so much about the things we do on this earth that he/she/it/they would punish for all eternity for our actions - care so much that this god would take it's attention away from the vast infinite universe... Sure god may and probably does care for existence but, the universe is enormous... and No I am not pessimistic or depressed or think human existence is worthless... I just think that the human ego created the concept of a personal god in order to please itself into thinking that what we do here is Eternally important
     
  2. BlackBillBlake

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    What about an impersonal god?
     
  3. thumontico

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    An impersonal God is more likely, because there is no evidence of a supernatural being, an impersonal God would account for the absence. Still though its unlikely....
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

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    Why unlikely?
     
  5. sylvanlightning

    sylvanlightning Prismatic Essence

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    I feel the trouble here is in seeing the Universal Consciousness
    as being transcendent instead of immanent. When embracing
    immanence, or conscious creation, one quickly sees each living
    being as a reflection of consciousness. Yes, this human-centered
    constriction keeps us from seeing our fellow creatures as equal...
    be this a star, sun, snail or frog.
     
  6. BlackBillBlake

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    I'd say that's simply human ignorance and fear rather than egoism.
     
  7. mascotucorazon956

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    thats funny cuz a lot of people say human arrogance leads to disbelief of 'god'. why let the idea of it mind rape you. thats why all these christians piss themselves outta happiness when they put their 'good word' to work and see us debating this bullshit. just spread the peace man, fukkit
    AND KICK SOME MORMON AZZ!!!
    all smug with their bikes i can trade for crack:X
     
  8. corduroy

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    Yes, I think fear and ignorance do contribute to, but I think many fail to see that our own arrogance contributes to... I think I'm referring more to the fact that people think if you're good and follow Jesus (or whoever) that you'll go to heaven... FOR ALL ETERNITY... and if you don't follow so and so you'll go to hell for ALL ETERNITY... to think that this god cares so much that perhaps you cussed once... that you'll spend all eternity being punished.... it's crazy... Eternity is forever and the universe is huge... Why do we think we are so important... That is what bothers me.
     
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    I fear that this is it - that it is dark on the other side and it lasts forever - and I think that that fear made god
     
  10. StonerBill

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    i think its arrogant to call over 90% of the worlds population arrogant
     
  11. corduroy

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    Certainly it is, I mean no harm by it, certainly I am also guilty of having these same feelings. I mean no harm to anyone, it's just an observation about human nature and religion.
     
  12. sylvanlightning

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    Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Aum
     
  13. Zion

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    Well, if there was one thing to be arrogant proud and gratefull for it could be us alive as beings, and fruits and vegetables and every other intelligent thing that works. and these seem be curtious acts So umm I thank the LORD
     
  14. Talk Show Host

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    Two very seperate ideas passed off as one. Unfortunately the one of real substance lost quite early in the thread. The other sucks.

    Generally, when someone says something like that and follows up with that which has followed I say turn up the good and turn down the suck.
     
  15. Zion

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    Those are your words not mine, I obviously see them as one
     
  16. StonerBill

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    i meant no harm either, uts just an observation...
     
  17. corduroy

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    As long as were on the same page


    When I wrote this idea I was (and still do) thinking about the whole idea of some people that build HUGE graves for themselves and try to almost make themselves eternal.... It really is just... I think arrogant..
    ........ I don't even want to have a grave marker, I mean, in like 50 years after I die, who will remember me anyway? Maybe some great-grandkids, but they won't have known me, so why waste the stone? Why waste the land? Land is for the living not the dead... We should honor the dead, but not immortalize them.
     
  18. Inquiring-Mind

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    I felt like I was reading my mind, the human ego created the concept of god to feel important and to create the illusion that our existent is actually important but the reality is if I was to die tomorrow it is no big deal. Life and the universe go on, we are just one tiny piece of the puzzle. Like you said basically the human "ego" created a personal god for that eternal feeling of importance.
     
  19. randy

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    i agree!

    it goes on

    been proven so many billions of times,

    happens almost every day,

    its just hard when it has happened near you though, hard to stop thinking about it,

    hum
     
  20. Libertine

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    I think it's arrogant to not be arrogant. :confused:
     
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