I am sick and fuckin tired of this.

I am amazed by the the incredible prejudice that i have seen not only on these forums, but virtually everywhere i go. What I am reffering to is the puritanical attitute expressed towards opiate users. People who partake in various other drugs ( Marijuana, Alcohol, etc.) seem to have no objections to their drugs of choice, but take a harsh, condescending and often insulting view of narcotic users and addicts; ( and contrary to popular belief, the two are NOT one in the same.). It amazes me that in a society where racisim and basically every other for of prejudice are not accepted, prejudice and stereotyping of these people is still not only widely accepted, but often encouraged.
We narcotics users face what is truly one of the last frontiers of civil rights in America. I just wish those who criticize would at the very least try to understand us befor making their judgements.
I of course am not accusing every person on this forum or indeed anywhere else. For the most part hipforums have proivided a supportive and very accepting enviornment. I call out to the minority. Those who choose to make unfair judjments towards people they know ABSOLUTEY NOTHING about.
Thank you for listening. I hope this issue is as important to you guys as it is to me.

 

Ummm....yeah, because you of all people deserve the same sympathy as black people. I mean, nevermind the fact that opium users chose their actions and black people can't help the way they are...

Sorry for the honesty, it's just a little hard for me to pity you when my uncle is a heroin user who steals from my grandparents. I don't judge people by the way they look, or by things out of their control. I judge them by their actions.You chose the actions, you chose the consequences. People judging you just happens to be one of the consequences. Whether or not it's right is a matter of opinion, and is irrelavent to the reality of the situation. Deal with it.

 

Did I ever ask for your pitty?
I am not going to try to say that it isn't a stupid choice to become addicted to habit-forming drugs. It is. I have no problem with anyone saying so , because it is the truth. But i do have a major problem with someone completey condemning a person as a human being based purely on that choice.

 

strawberry is a sexual puritan and typical of the assholes comprising the vast majority of hip forumers.....everything you said is rite on and dont expect it to change america is a pile of shit !

 

yea people do that to marijuana and alcohol users too. happens around here all the time.

 

heroin is the only drug that doesnt effect your thinking ability ,,,,wish it didnt wreck your shitting ability

 

ok... I have no problem with "opiates" as you say... I smoked opium for a time and loved it. But when you start shoving shit in your vein cause you need the rush or fix thats a fucking problem. Methadone is not much better. It was the "answer" to heroin and turned out to be more addicting, but you just didnt need the spike anymore. I'm sorry if I think poorly of a drug that drains and kills people. I have never met a casual heroin user. I've met a lot of addicts and people who tried it once and puked till they cried. So get down to the heart of it. Your pissed because people here don't like H. I hate the drug for personal reasons as seeing a dead 16 year old in a bathtub is not the kinda thing that turns you onto that shit. H drains and it kills. If you can shoot up and not go crazy for a fix (this includes in all situations... stressful ones arent excuses for wanting a hit) then more power to you. Let me just clarify for you:

I HATE HEROIN NOT OPIATES!

 

I am a regular opium user, i grow my own poppies, so i cannot criticize the use of any related drug. Its just that heroin in particular scares the hell out of me, but that's my problem. If people want to use heroin it is their choice!

 

opiate users are i guess kind of looked at the same way black people are (to me)


i use opiates, so i would be a victim of the 'opiate opression'...but completely opposite as far as blacks go...because when i see a black person, i ASSUME hes up to know good until he proves himself...if i meet him and find out hes not just like every negative black person, then great...but to me...black people are 'guilty until proven innocent'...so i guess i could understand people looking at me as an 'addict' until they meet me and find out what im all about

(im not referring to H specifically, just all opiates in general)

 

So racism is synonymous with addiction?

 

This is getting out of hand.

How are opiate users oppressed, exactly? I don't see any clinics around giving out free straws and pills to cokeheads. Quit yer' bitchin', and if someone says something about your addiction that you find offensive...then quit!

 

I agree. Though I am clean at the moment, I've used heroin and oxy in the past. If someone were to tell me what a dumb choice it is to use heroin, i wouldn't be offended in the least. A few close friends found out about my heroin use and bitched me out . . . I am VERY glad they did so. (Many of whom had used themselves) What oppression? When my sister first found out I was using heroin, I defended myself rather weakly by saying, "oh, but it just has a bad stigma. It's not like I'm sticking a needle in my arm or anything blah blah blah . . . " There IS a reason that heroin is SOOO stigmatized. And i know, i know . . . this thread was started regarding "opiate oppresson." I really don't think it's oppression. I WILL smoke heroin again if i so choose and if someone screams, "JUNKY" at my face . . . well, I still don't think that's oppression. It's a reality we just have to face. Let's come clean here . . . people DON'T like heroin and the likes!

 

I agree, users of other drugs should not knock users of opiates - I think maybe sometimes that is because addicted users of hardcore opiates have to engage in more despicable, illegal behavior to support their habits - because the drugs are illegal and expensive. If a junky could support his habit for $5.00 a day probably most people would never even know he was a junky. People who are weekend warriors with other drugs feel like they are "better" because they do not have to be thieves and con artists----

As usual it isnt the drug - it is the ILLEGALITY OF THE DRUG--

It is interesting, most people are prejudiced against drunks. ESPECIALLY, junkies dislike drunks ("Junkies take showers; drunks don't" - I have heard that often). And I think it mostly IS the drunk's behavior here - alcohol tends to make lots of people act like 2 year olds, selfish and destructive, and a drunk who drives is downright dangerous. (yes I know opiates can impair driving ability - but I think we all know they don't do so nearly so much as does alcohol). And, of course, alcohol IS legal---

Personally I am prejudiced against all the ignorant people who are prejudiced against drugs without knowing ANYTHING about the reality----

Everyone have a safe and happy 4th of July holiday (well, if you are in the USA, anyway)

 

--Sushi, your just as much a bigot as Kar is. And yeah, I'm white and I'm pretty fucking overwhelmed with oppression. Get over it.
--Godot, I agree to an extent. Here, if you're known to do any speed, coke, opium, pharms, or RC's, you're labeled a hopeless addict. I have no idea how this even compares to the prejudice blacks have faced, because it does'nt even come close. People who are prejudice against drugs are so because they don't understand. They don't know the difference between heroin and coke, all they know is that it's "bad". This goes for the general public a bit more than it does the people on these boards.

 

"--Sushi, your just as much a bigot as Kar is. And yeah, I'm white and I'm pretty fucking overwhelmed with oppression. Get over it. "
-backtothelab

I'm a bigot? Do you care to elaborate? I think you are slightly confused. I'm not trying to do any back-stabbing it's just that I really don't think there is any reason to tolerate racism. It's 2004 . . . are we that pathetic? You may be just as oppressed as the next black man . . . this whole racism thing is definitely two-sided. If this if the case, I really am sorry. But that DOES NOT mean that every person with skin much darker than your own is guilty or dangerous or whatever preconception you are assuming and assigning. As far as the opiate oppression . . . it's very possible my words were misinterpreted. Let me just state for the record that I'd rather crush up some Oxy and snort my way to pleasure or smoke heroin than smoke ganj, drink etc. BUT, if someone gives me shit for my drug use, so be it. I honestly don't think that an opiate is worse than alcoholism etc. I actually prefer many of the junkies to the drunks and the dumb and getting dumber type of potheads (and once again don't get me wrong . . . i just think herb should be somewhat spiritual) . . . Okay, okay . . . shoot me down. Bottom line don't advertise to these opioid oppressors.

 

I agree that addicts are looked down upon by society in general....people that have never had a problem possibly just dont understand and some are just judgemental....but it in NO way is comparable to racism. A drug addict might be looked down upon for their accquired addiction, which is a choice.....not because it is something they are born as that they cant change. I would not call drug addicts "oppressed". Are they pushed to the outskirts of society? yes. But they certainly are not oppressed the way that African Americans were.....you dont see groups hillbilly white guys in sheets burning crosses on your lawn because you are a drug addict. And with the exception of a piss test....it is pretty easy to hide your addiction from the general public if you want to.