Christianity and the Ten Commandments

Though I don't understand them fully yet, catholics do not worship saints. neither do they worship mary. Every catholic I've spoken so far immediatly intervened when I talked about worshipping mary or saints. They were very clear about it that they don't worship them. They explained it that, in the same way human A can ask human B to pray for him/here, they also ask mary or a saint to pray for them before the throne of God. And if I understood it right, the catholics that I've spoken said that mary and the saints cannot do things temselves, just as that human B praying for human A does not do anything him/herself, but akss God to do something.

That's all I undertand about it so far. Also, the catholics whom I've spoken to were all interested in unity among christian and/or the charismatic renewal or other renewal movements within the church, so I haven't spoken to very traditional catholics. ALso I never read the catholic catechism or stuff like that so I also do not know what the catholic church herself says about it.

moonlight, wat do you mean by this:
"He had finally realized (as we all inevitably will) that there was and is no difference or separation between God and he." ?

 

:$ you're so vain, you probably think this song is about you, you're so vain....

 

Catholics revere the souls of saints above others......that sounds like a definition of worship to me....hell, there are whole prayer books solely devoted to Mary.....and to mantion hundreds of other prayers to numerous other saints......

I doubt that God cares wither a catholic see's a saint as some kinda "intermediatory" between Himself and the human world....worship is worship, and he demands it all....

As for Jesus...well, I'm sure he's sitting on a cloud somewhere with his head in hands, wondering how we all got so stupid....jesus never proclaimed himself to be God....he claimed we were all the children of God and he was no different...he didn't require to be worshipped, he just wanted to promote his own view of God and how He should be worshipped.....Christianity, as we know it today...is an abomination to his word.

 

I don't claim to fully understand the roman-catholic church. And there are defenitely many things I don't agree with or don't understand. I just found out that prejudices of me were untrue and that I met catholics who are my brothers and sisters in Christ. I do not know if that is BECAUSE or INSPITE or roman-catholic teaching.

To be honoust, fuzzy, I can't answer you about those things. Maybe a catholic can, maybe nobody can. I dunno. But here in Holland there are also churches with a strict hierarchy where the church as organisation is really messing up, but were individual christians or christian communities are still faithfull, even though the organisation above it isn't. Some even deliberatly join such a dead organisation because they still have hope for it and want to do their part in building things up.

 

Jesus Christ prayed in the form of humanity... yet, he was deity in the flesh. God told Israel that he would send them a messiah. A tangible symbol within which their salvation was to lie. He sent himself, for our sake, to be born of a woman.

As far as the cross, it is a graven image. The cross is symbolic of our sin, not of Christ. Parading it around your neck is merely reminding him of our own transgressions.

The Catholic church is spiritually blinded and possess no concept of God. They have broken commandments, taken the written word horribly out of context, and tried to justify their own lies.

The Bible states that becoming joint heirs with Christ (the family of God) happens through the baptism in His name (Galations 3:27). We become children of God through faith in Christ, and baptism into his death. The words says that unless the blood of his death is applied through baptism, one is not part of the family of Christ.

 

True Christians would study God's word no matter their age. Not just learn when they are young and then forget it when they are old. Christianity is not a fad but a lifestyle that should never wear out.

Again age does not matter.... stop pulling the age card out as your escape of anything I say. If my age wasn't even posted on here, you would not even say anything......


Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young (1 Tim 4:12)

 

i dont understand this. could you please explain campbell? is it in reference to the first part of my post or the second?

thanks

 

moonlight, wat do you mean by this:
"He had finally realized (as we all inevitably will) that there was and is no difference or separation between God and he." ?[/QUOTE]
What I mean by that is Jesus is the example of what the truly enlightened soul is. The truth is that God is the only truth and we are God. As corny as it sounds, you and I and everything is one. There is nothing outside, that is all perception and the perception of you as a seperate entity is just my unenlightened mind trying to present itself with false evidence of its separation from everything and most importantly, from God. Jesus had reached a point where he knew, at the very core of his being, that he truly was (and is) God. What I am suggesting is by no means fundamentalist, but it is reasonably Christian.

 

God is the only one doing anything, but God has many minds to perceive God's actions (you, me, buddha, christ, the actor who plays the hamburgler in the old McDonalds commercials). After all, God does need other minds to perceive God's actions to be fulfilled. The good thing is, once you realise how important you (as a perceiving entity) are to God, God will be able to 'give you lots of neato stuff' and do cool stuff to you. (Holy orgasms anyone?)

Ahh, but the separation is something which exists. We are each individual perceivers of God's actions (even my perception of God revealing what is inside me by typing these words...). I am not God, I am a feeler of God, a soul. You need to realise that although all the actions that are made are God's, you are a seperate perceiver of Gods actions, a companion to watch that which God does so God can share God's greatness (which is why you don't know the plot of everything around you- God holds God's cards close to God's boobs so that you can 'know' that you are a perceiver of God's actions instead of God).

No. He knew that he percieved the actions of God and knew that they were and are for his and God's benefit (and ours- a happy God is a good God).

 

Not persons buddy. Not persons.

 

What's a holy orgasm Kharakov?

 

Any one that you know came from God.

Me.

 

ACCORDING TO WEBSTER'S NEW COLLEGIATE DICTIONARY. PERSONS-ONE OF THE THREE MODES OF BEING IN THE TRINITARIAN GODHEAD AS UNDERSTOOD BY CHRISTIANS.

TRINITY- THE UNITY OF FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT, AS THREE PERSONS IN ONE GODHEAD.

SORRY BUDDY, NEXT TIME CHECK OUT YOUR DICTIONARY.

 

I argue that anyone you know IS God.

 

My response to this is a little contradictory in and of itself because I am so insistent on the idea that we are God so, in that case, YES... God IS the only one doing anything because he is the only one, period. But as far as our perception goes, we are not perceiving God's will in this earth. We are perceiving our own will, as the creators of our Universe. We have complete control over everything in our lives. We created (even when it doesn't seem like we did) because we knew, on a spiritual level, that it was what we needed to become closer to God. This whole world is a lesson in forgiveness, problems exist when forgiveness is not present. You see, when we perceive the world, there are infinite possiblities as to how we will take it. Its all sooooo subjective. Subjectivity is a biproduct of separation. A separation that is impossible (unless we perceive it otherwise, which we all do... thats why we're here on earth). And the only person who's going to be giving me neato stuff is me, not God, because that would be VERY unGodly.

The fact is, God's actions can be nothing BUT good. Actually, thats an understatement. God's actions can be nothing BUT perfect because God is capable of nothing else.

 

The two paragraphs before the last weren't suppose to be quoted, please disregard my failed attempt at pretending to know how to work a computer.

 

Let's talk about when God farts.

 

RE: Let's talk about when God farts.

OK!

Isaiah 16:11