question for the Christian haters

Anyone else like it when God makes them sin? I mean, come on people, it's fun!

 

Shame on those people who used "Christianity" to "Justify" those horrible things!!! I think there were and are a whole lot of politics and personal agendas that muddy up Christianity. Just by calling oneself and their motives Christian, doesn't mean they are motivated purely by Christian virtues.

Holy wars are a big oxymoron in my opinion!

I thought Jesus was referred to as the "prince of peace"

 

How odd (i mean, i find it odd, not that you are odd yourself). To care about human life, which i presume you do, yet not care about a persons immortal soul........i can't understand your thinkin' like that at all....that's too cold for me.

Because i sat and read the bible.....i live in a christian dominated society...i#d be a fool if i didn't educate myself into how the society i live in works

 

I care greatly about human life, but I would be a fool to sound like I have a clear understanding of the "afterlife". And like I said, It is not my decision what happens to ones soul after death anyway. I am not the one who decides who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.


Do you believe in an immortal soul?

 

God does.

 

I think you may be the first Christian I have ever met that doesn't pray for others souls then

of course

 

To be honest, I do agree that a mass murder can be forgiven. Just imagine for a moment that a mass murder does, in fact truely, repent his actions and completely and unequivicably turns their live around and would live the rest of their life as a truely "good" and "righteous" person.

Do you honestly feel that this person should have been given the death penalty and not be allowed to live the rest of their life?

What a waste of life otherwise.

I'm not saying that we should not ever pass judgement and never convict criminals. As I had said in another post somewhere, I think we should have the right to restrain obvious offenders to prevent them from hurting/killing others.

I had a male friend who was convicted of repeatedly molesting another male friend when he was passed out drunk. All of our friends completely ostracized him and never wanted to be associated with him again. I would still be willing to be his friend and accept him. I just would definately never get drunk around him!!! It was probably something that happened to him as a child that was not his fault that layed the foundations for this behavior in the first place.

 

My Christian faith does not stop me from using reason, and it doesn't justify all of my actions. It's not like I could go shoot down a plane and then say well that's what God wanted. That's just stupid.

And I liked what mynameismic said about people creating religions..which lead to the evil.

Andplease...whoever brought up the Crusades...I've heard this so many times before it makes me want to puke. Religious people do produce good and positive change in the world. It just isn't advertised the way that evil and terrible people and events are advertised in the news, etc.

 

Opps, forgot to mention that. Yes, I do pray for others' salvation.

 

Yes, shame on them. I do not believe that they were influenced purely by christian motives, but holy wars were a direct consequence of Christianity.

 

But...your praying for the salvation.....to god (or jesus, or wotever saints yer pray to)......the same being that will cause their damnation....

Is it only me that thinks this is crazy?

 

Well, when you think about it, and I'm sure I could get a lot of grief from other christians, baptism is just a physical act that itself is meaningless.

However for Christian families it is an event that allows them to specifically recognize their affirmations to raise the child by instilling Christian virtues.

 

And doesn't that strike you as wrong?

What would your reaction be, as a person now fully capable of making an informed decision, if your parents told you that they had decided you had to become Hindu, or Buddhist, or a Druid?

 

Yes, that is another good point that I have pondered many times, and also another reason that I feel their destiny is ultimately out of my hands, so to speek. All I can do is attest to my own lifestyle and pray for their soul. and let a God who I can't even come close to fathoming their omnipotence and power decide the rest.

It is amazing how many parralels there are among the religions who believe in a god or gods. Sometimes I wonder if we aren't all praying to the same god but the beliefs, symbolism and rituals all got interpreted differently by the different cultures of the world. I've been known to feel that no matter what religion you belong to they all have almost identical foundations as far as "rules" by which to live by, and no matter what religion it is it is better to persue that religion with all your heart and diligence than to be idle and lazy spiritually.

 

I think before we delve in to gods and gods' wills and what not, we need to examine to see if there be any legitimate evidence for the supernatural itself other than stories, hearsay, urban legends, etc.

I am a magician myself, a mentalist. During my shows, I am playing the part of a "psychic" mind reader. I've had people cry, nearly faint, become incredibly shocked, because of the stunning accuracy of my "revelations".

However, I have ZERO "psychic" ability. But, I know several secrets behind suggestion, mass hypnosis, psychological tricks and, of course, the art of illusion. I am an illusionary scientist, I use physics in my tricks that seem to defy the laws of physics, but it's all for entertainment only.

And being a member of a society (which will remain secret that debunks certain claims). I debunked a claim in the Psychics Forum here on HipForums about the silly "My Son Peter" website already... I am extremely skeptical that any such evidence can be produced. Of course, I can be mistaken, I am human.

However, I have yet to see any legit evidence thus far.

 

I don't share your beliefs.....but yer strike me as being a very good person...I think it's time i hopped off me soapbox in this thread now

Pleasure talkin' to ya

 

I bet you are no Ron Fitzgerald.

 

We are all good people here!

Thanks it was a pleasure talking to you too.

Well, that sounds interesting. I'd like to look into it. I have been interested in this stuff as well. I will also need to sign off of here for the evening though.

later...

 

Maybe, maybe not....but, I can hold my own.

 

I am sure... I would like to see one of your shows.