nipple development??

You can do whatever you want to with your own body. I'm not questioning that at all. It's just that whole "a guy should earn the privilege..." thing that I have a problem with. That reflects such a conceited attitude. It's like you're saying you have a special treat or honor that you have the power to bestow upon some lowly male if he behaves properly. If he somehow manages to control his baser instincts and pretends to be interested in your mind instead of your body for a little while, then you'll do him this really big favor by letting him see your breasts. It's such a silly game you play. And guys will usually go along and play the game, because they know that's what it takes to get what they really want - sex. That's what every normal guy wants from the getgo, so you're just fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

 

I'm not even playing a game. It's called self respect not concieted. I prolly have one of the lowest self esteems on here, and for good reason. Hello, I know I'm not all that. I'll be fucking brutally honest on this one. I'm 5'6 and prolly about 200 pounds. I'm chubby as fuck. I don't pretend to be someone I'm not and I don't like to be treated as some object guys can just gawk at. I'm not some sort of circus show. All I was saying is that only someone who was willing to commit to me is going to see more then what I show on here already. You twisted my words out to make me sound like some self absorbed, holier than thou, prude; which I'm not.

Oh and, there are guys out there that aren't in relationships just for the sex. Maybe that's what you think cause that's how you treat women. I've actually been in relationships where the guys made ME hold off for a while on the sex because they wanted it to be more meaningful, and it was. Every single person on this earth is different and has a different set of values and morals that they live their life by. You just don't seem to respect those differences and start spouting bullshit before you even know anything about a person.

I'm done with this little arguement. I've said my bit and you are not worth the effort.

 

nvmmmmmm

 

How did this go from a nipple question to .....whatever this went to?

I say hooray for boobies! Biguns, littleuns, lopsided ones, hairy ones like a yeti....hooray!

 

its like a puzzle and when the men figure out all the clues, they get the supreme prize at the end

 

No, it's probably normal, but if it gets out of control, you can always shorten it by scissors.

 

Nothing wrong with her holding it as something she would rather share on an intimate basis and "earning" it by spending time enough for her to know she whether she wants to be that intimate or not. I hate seeing anyone picked on for having a differing viewpoint. There was nothing wrong with asking to see her breasts as there was nothing wrong with her response. I can see how the word "earn" is rather distasteful though but maybe if you took it in the light its meant...

 

It is a silly game that some women play - not all do. Why can't women just be honest up front? Men only want sex - at least at first - it's only natural. Men are just made that way. So why can't women realize and accept that? And if the woman is attracted to the man, she doesn't need to play these silly games. Just have sex and enjoy it. Then once that's out of the way, if both still feel like they want to get better acquainted, which possibly could lead to a relationship, then they are both able to be honest with each other with no ulterior motives. If either doesn't want to pursue a relationship further, then they move on and no one gets hurt.

 

Weeble, I’m very impressed with your forthright honesty here in talking about yourself. Please don’t be so down on yourself, you have no real reason to be. Perhaps it’s due to your low self-esteem that you try to build yourself up with the attitude that someone has to earn the right to get close to you.

I don’t think I was twisting your words, only taking what you actually said and showing you what that really meant and how it came across. I know you are not some holier than thou prude, just someone who is doing the best she can to function in a world where men and women seem to speak different languages. Believe me, we all want the same things – love and acceptance. If you have an attitude that your body or parts of your body are prizes to be earned, rather than something to be shared with someone you care about, you’re always going to be part of a deception – whether it’s deception on your part or deception on the part of someone who is very attracted to you, these types of games are rife with deception and dishonesty and will usually only end in misunderstanding, disappointment, and heartbreak.

Don’t fool yourself, Weeble. All guys, unless they are gay, are looking for sex in any relationship with a woman. Some may make you think otherwise, but that’s just their game in order to ultimately get sex from you. And there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s only natural. It’s just the way guys are. You’d be much happier if you just accept that and deal with it.

And btw, as to how I treat women, fwiw, I’m happily married and have been for many years. My wife is a wonderful woman. We had sex the first time we ever were together, because we were attracted to each other, and it’s what we both wanted. She never displayed any kind of attitude like I needed to earn some right to her body. Since we got our first sexual encounter out of the way right away, that gave us the opportunity to really get to know each other in the next few weeks without any sexual tension or pressure. Of course we had lots more sex after that, but that was not the primary goal for either of us. We just liked each other and had a lot in common. I soon realized she was a rare find in a woman, so I didn’t want to ever lose her.

 

*blows whistle shrilling*
OUTTA THE (gene) POOL NOW PLEASE!
Sorry dude, yer wrong. Not every man wants to leap before they look. There are many that like to make sure they are diving in deep water and not a shallow pool.

 

And you, being a woman, are well qualified to know what all men think? Don't know what your experiences have been, but sounds like a few games have been played on you as well. Men want sex as soon as possible. They may not be able to get sex as soon as possible, for whatever reason. But that's what they want. That is a fact.

 

I have honest talks with honest people. That they may want, and be thinking about sex is true, but that many would still prefer something more than a quick fuck is also true. Lots of men are turned off by women that would readily spread their legs at the drop of a hat for any guy.
As a matter of fact I just talked to four guys between the ages of 18-24 and they all would hold a chick as suspect for being that easy! None of them would consider her relationship material.

 

I know I said I was done.. I just had to point this out. If it was true that men want sex as soon as possible why did one of my ex's make me wait an extra month (on top of the month that I wanted to wait)? Another guy I was dating isn't even that interested in sex all together. I was a total hornball once when he was visiting cause I hadn't gotten laid in a while and he visited for 3 days and actually got MAD at me for coming on to him after about the 5th time I tried. I've had sex with both guys and neither of them were virgins.

 

sounds like cancer to me...

 

When I talk about what men want, of course there're going to be some exceptions somewhere, but I think they are few and far between. I could have said "almost all" when talking about this, but I think everyone knows there are always exceptions to any rule. In the cases you mention, there's no way I would know why they acted that way. Did you ask either one why? I could only make some guesses. Perhaps either or both were getting sex somewhere else at the time. Perhaps the one who made you wait was resentful that you made him wait and wanted to let you see how it felt. Perhaps the one not interested in sex had a medical problem. Perhaps either or both just were not attracted to you in particular. Perhaps either or both were actually secretly gay. The most likely reason why some young, seemingly healthy, straight male doesn't seem interested in sex is that he is getting plenty of sex elsewhere, as I mentioned before. I just don't know. They were indeed exceptions, though.

 

benj, I'm a male biologically and bisexual; yet, I'm still a virgin. I don't care about receiving sexual acts, but I will give them. Just because you are a male, doesn't mean you have to have sex as soon as possible; I probably wouldn't date a man who felt that way. Sucumbing to such desires so easily shows a lack of restraint; something primitive... Sex is the last thing I want in a relationship, as I see it as the most symbolic act that can be performed.

It's true that a lot of guys just like to get themselves off and feel good. But... just because you have a penis doesn't justify the initial desire for sex. I'm not a man, but, I have a penis...

 

oh so very wrong you are if penis-bearing organisms wern't attracted to sex for reasons other than love then most of us probobly wouldnt be here right now...

its natural for guys to need sex... so who says its a bad thing?

 

Guys don't need sex, they desire it... A need is something necessary to maintaining one's life functions. Procreation is a desire, a very strong desire, at that. I, have absolutely no sex drive, whatsoever... It's not a bad thing, just... something I wouldn't find ideal in a partner. Of course, there might be a guy out there that treats me right AND has an amazing sex drive... I'd love to meet one like that.

 

My nipples were just like that when I was your age then when I hit 20 they went pop-pop LOL, now they're erect more times than I would like.

Unlike you tho I kinda prefer smooth, flat nipples (I'm weird that way) and then when they popped out I was like DAMN . Haha

 

The guy I was with that wanted to wait 2 months wanted to wait because he felt the same as I do about the added plus to waiting. When you wait and take things one step at a time the feelings of desire and want build up and become very intense and ultimately satisfying once you let into it. He had no medical reasons, no one on the side, not gay and he was very interested in me. Most of our time was spent with soft sensual touches while talking about our sexual desires with one another followed by manual gratification. It's not like we didn't do other things, we just waited on the actual sex. We were often told to get a room and got reprimanded for "sucking face" too much. The problem with him was that is father didn't like me and he didn't have the balls to stand up for our relationship. If only he could have stood up to his asshole father and not let him push him around, it probably would have been an ideal relationship. Him and I did eventually have sex and it was amazing. He actually came twice during that first amazing hour and a half.

The guy I was only seeing... I actually think he has an erectial disfunction which causes him to not be very interested in sex.. but he was interested in me other then sex. I know because of how he reacted to certain things I did. He just was too psycho about it cause I was busy and he complained of me ignoring him, using him and playing mind games. I ended that fairly quickly.