thoughts on communism

do you want to live check to check and have payments and break even in that fractional exchange system, or do you want to live where material possesions are not restricted to those with a matching dollar value, therefore allowing you to live comfortably according to your desire, not according to how many hours you work and how much you make.
I've never heard that song, and those aren't my plans.
I'm trying to think of a way to explain it so you can grasp the concept of living outside the rule of a monetary system. you seem to want to be enslaved. if anything, this idea helps you out the most.

 

I agree with everything you have said in this post.

 

I live comfortably basically... I don't worry about anything, even any debts I have. No use in getting worked up over money. Man.. a long time ago I realized how shitty money is, in fact a couple times looking at a dollar bill when tripping I almost puked and got sick. The fact is, if I want to live comfortably in this day and age, I need to have some sort of income, or goods to trade, etc... unless given a really good oppurtunity for this to change, I am 'stuck' in this system.

 

We truly are a people of polar opposites. I feel the way I do about this issue also for spiritual purposes. But from the angle I'm looking at, I see mass spiritual devastation on the folks of Earth from the uniting yet dividing forces of governement and money.
But yes, let us defalte the debate.
We are stuck for now.
For now.

 

Oh yes, but self-government, and more personal responsability over your life.
I'm not saying completly get rid of it, im saying evolve it.
There is no way to completely get rid of it.
I would think this way would make it easier for the individual to go upon some journey, your whole life would be that journey, every waking moment would be far more significant if i'm not putting movies on shelves at blockbuster video up the street from my house where i currently spend 30 hours a week to get money.
however that is where i think of a lot of this shit.
ground zero of a rotting american culture

 

I would like it if it were just fair trade. no money involved. money confuses and complexicates everything.

 

Exactly. With consequences ranging from liquor store robbery/murder to wars pushed by defense contractors
Moonlight, hello, I just saw this and I'm responding,
gimme a sec.

 

my parents are communists... i use to be in a communist party.

 

I Dig!

 

sorry, my terrets..

 

And I can't tell you, of the many ways that I have sat and viewed my life today, but I can tell you. I don't think that I could find an easy way, so if I see you walking hand in hand in hand with a three armed man, you know I'll understand, but you shoulda been in my shoes yesterdaaay.

 

It all depends on what you are used to and what lifestyle you are willing to adapt too without hating it.

 

What, like, if you can handle the freedom to do what you want when you want and not worry about freezing or starving to death, or just from poverty (which is responsible for more deaths than anything else).

 

But, Random Andy, we need mon3y to buy our thingz!!1

 

Well moneywould be gradually phased out. After we had reached the final stage, upper socilism or communism people would be given what they needed. Money would be defunct.

 

WHY!!!!!!!! (multiple exclamations, I'm losing it) would you need things to trade for things. It is so easy to be of benefit to society, whilst always doing what you want. We are a social animal, we have evolved this way.

All we need do is remove the barriers between doing what you want and contributing to society. I mean, if you want an unskilled job, or a job which you possess the skills to do, who's to tell you you don't have the right to do it, and who's to tell you you have some kind of duty to stay at it for years, and who's to tell you you don't have the right to take a fair amount of what you make -especially if you turn up at, say a furniture factory with a load of wood and simply use their machines to turn it into furniture. A machine repair man might be able to tax you a bit of your furniture, but would you begrudge that? I mean wood is a vital raw material but it takes no effort to grow, and relatively little effort to cut down. Who does the Earth belong to, in justice. To no one, perhaps. To us all in equal measure, perhaps. I find it easier to say we belong to the Earth in the way a child belongs to a parent, and we each have the right to take from it as we need - fruit from trees, animals for meat. The fact that land is owned is one of the myths that is perpetuated to make us feel we should need to work as hard as we do just to survive. It's quite simply a lie Midnight Moonlight. The chemistry that you do - how many people does it benefit? Hundreds? Thousands? More? And yet you find yourself in debt. Because you pay three times the fair price for your food and a ridiculous amount on rent (if you've got a mortgage you still pay too much because of those who own multiple properties, which obviously pushes prices up because it reduces supply) and because you love to express how wealthy you are by giving tons of it to casinos - surely you can think of better ways to spend your time than that. I have to admit that casinos are one thing that I can't see surviving in a money-free society.

 

Yes, coolner you are right. That's why reformism is a waste of time. Reformism is just the libreal side of capitalism. In it the ruling class remains the same and they still have teh state apperatus and still destroy human rights and people's lives.