is it just me, or does it seem that there is a whole fucking generation of kids coming up on listening to the most mediocre, soulless, talentless, art-less, flat, boring SHIT to ever be called music? am i becoming an old fuddy-duddy? i have very eclectic tastes, and i like to give lots of different music genres a chance. i listen to new shit with an open mind most of the time. i love music that is innovative, passionate, soulful, and artistic...and above all original. i love a wide range of music. a sample platter of my tastes: radiohead, janis joplin, U2, parlaiment funkadelic, earth wind and fire, michael franti and spearhead, jurrasic 5, nirvana, digable planets, the doors, the smashing pumpkins, the dead, crosby stilles and nash (sans neil young or with...love them both), the flaming lips, my bloody valentine, bootsy collins, johnny cash, NIN...well, you get the idea, i'm fucking eclectic... what i don't like is all the whiny white kids who decide that living in suburbia with mom and dad has made them depressed enough to write a song about being heartbroken...it's like they pick up a guitar and start sobbing, and that's the song...them crying to the song they're playing. am i the only one? i mean, i'm all about being in touch with your feminine side and your feelings...but some of this music is PURE SHIT. i mean, it lacks musical creativity or soul. it's some white kid who grew up in the suburbs whining that his girlfriend broke up with him...one band in particular that a friend of mine like is called bright eyes. bright eyes really isn't actually a BAND, but it's one guy named conner obearst. he cannot sing worth shit, and most of his really depressing shit makes me wanna say, "oh please, white boy!" a friend of mine's ex boyfriend actually grew up with this kid (and is in one of these horrible "emo/indie" bands) and they went to the same church/school/dentist, etc...they lived a pretty priveledged life. i'm white, but i sure as hell didn't grow up with a priveledged background, and i had some pretty rough times as a kid, but i don't whine about it, dammit! i celebrate love and passion, new discoveries, etc. and i like music that does the same. music that is real...music that when it expresses heartache, does it in a beautiful and emotionally heartfelt way, not in a whiny little kid way. to get to my point...there is a whole generation of kids coming up who are into the indie rock scene...and they call themselves "scene kids" or "emo". now, i am all about independed record labels. the man controls the music business too much as it is, and more power to artists who can break away from that bullshit and reach the audiences they really want to reach...but there's a huge difference between that and trying to start a "scene". music is about art, not about starting a trend. the whole "emo" thing really is a fad, in my opinion. it's a craze. it's cool to be sad. it's cool to be skinny and pale. it's cool to be pretentious as shit and shut out all other kinds of music simply because they aren't on an independent record label. so for the teens today, there's either bubblegum pop (which there always has been and always will be - best thing to do is ignore it), or fucking emo shit. great. we'll have a whole generation of apathetic, self-important, whiny bitches to be our future leaders. awesome. assheads. *rant over* -old fuddy-duddy lady out-
I don't like these bands that have the image of punk but create overproduced bland songs that are out today, but I think that some of Bright Eyes stuff is pretty good...my younger brother has been into him for years, so I wouldn't call it a new trend at all...but I don't like his super whiny songs, they aren't all like that thgh. I think its pretty natural to see younger kids and see and be a bit alienated. I had thought that by now younger kids would be into something very new that couldn't even be comprehended when i was younger...but that isn't true. I'm surprised that kids still listen to classic rock like Pink Floyd, Zepplin etc. I had thought that those would become "oldies, but they haven't gone down in popularity at all. In summary, Idon't really know that what kids listen to today is any worse than what the majority of kids listened to when i was that age....I was weird just because I liked punk rock and indie bands of the 80's when I was in high school, shortly after that it became the cool thing, and now it seems like kids are still listening to the older stuff too.
some valid points. i liked ONE bright eyes song, and it was called "a celebration upon completion.." i actually meant to include that song and make the point that i actually liked it...the lyrics were beautiful and it wasn't whiny. but i would have liked to have heard this song covered by someone who can carry a tune. i just have to peacefully disagree with a man who cannot sing on key. it's unpleasant sounding to my ears. when i was writing this post originally, i was feeling like a cynical old shit...hehehe...i'm only 22, but i feel like i'm older than my parents most of the time. bring me my teeth! haha... but yeah, i really, really hate faux-punk bands who tout this image of rebelliousness, but their songs all sound the same from one band to the next. most kids who come up on THIS horseshit have never even listened to the dead kennedys, or the sex pistols, or the misfits, or any old school punk...they don't even know what it is...the ones who DO know the score are exceptional kids and i commend them...
Oh I know....I felt older at 22 in many ways than a do now. Its when the divide happens between you and people a few years younger.
dude, photoshop is your friend...reduce the size of your old gay men sex picture before putting it on your sig...it's way too huge, and it's making this thread very hard to read... edit: oh, okay, you just did. thank you.
You forgot about hiphop, where it's not about your ability to rap, but how much feminine nudity and solid gold you can cram into one videoclip... Nevertheless, you're totally right. It's getting increasingly difficult to avoid being swept up into musical trends because a lot of 'powerful' people (in the media, in the music business or the cd shops) just don't pay attention to things that might not be economically rewarding. Luckily this forum is a place where most people have developed their own taste in music, independently from trends and the greed of the current music business.
Good music is out there....you just have to look for it. Whenever you see an emo kid walking down the street, give him a flower and say "Cheer up emo kid!" or kick him in the nuts and say "I think that experience will make a great song". Whatever you think is the best way to go with it.
lol! i disagree with the hip hop comment, as a i know of a lot of artists who could be classified as "hip hop" but don't fit that specific label like a glove and those artists are definitely not in it for the money...artists like...digable planets, de la soul, jurassic 5, ozo matli...the list goes on...
of course, digable isn't really together anymore...neither are de la soul if i remember correctly...correct me if i am wrong. i'm sure i'm missing about a bazillion other artists out there that could possibly be classified as being under the "hip hop" genre but definitely don't conform to what the mainstream classifies as hip hop..
Totally agree, also hate those classed as R 'n' B, yet have no Rhythm and it ain't Blues. A lot of my friends are emo, and I really can't understand why. They want to be depressed.
I was aiming mainly at the currently popular wave of hiphop, the ones who are propagandised by the big greedy labels and who usually DO have the image I described. You wouldn't find most of the hiphop artists/groups you mentioned on mtv or any other mainstream music channel, right?
nope, most likely not...though i wouldn't know as i haven't watched mTV since about 1997. after that, i started boycotting it, and haven't seen it willfully since...if someone had it on the TV at their house, i never paid attention to it. and no, it's not because i'm pretentious hehe...it's because the shit doesn't interest me at all.
They got about ten minutes into the first annual Hip Hop TV awards ceremony before a riot broke out and the show was cancelled. Great job, guys. The trendy music is whiney and empty. Like the self-pity fake blues songs that these groups come up with who in reality have everything. "We were all poor. The butler was poor, the maid was poor, we didn't have enough money to fix the Rolls Royce so we had to drive the Mercedes" and so on. Trends used to last a couple years and people would move on to new things. Now they last a couple decades, thanks to a recording industry that has people socially condition to keep buying cookie cutter recordings. As I've said before, we need to dump groups like Enima M and flush the bowels of a constipated recording industry. .
