what is a veggie meal that isnt an omni meal? By definition, all your meals are omni meals. It is veggies who limit their choices, not omnis. Some veggies make it sound like omnis eat nothing but steak. Sorry, so not true.
HUH? maybe it's been a long day but I seem to remember people using the term "veggie meal" around here before. Since when did I say all my meals are "omni meals"? Steak is a very rare thing even for my omni ex & kids.
what i'm saying is: an omni can eat everything you eat. You cant eat everything an omni eats. I was commenting on how the person said "Maybe most omni's have eaten a veggie meal before & liked it." i.e. a 'veggie meal' is already an omni meal. A veggie meal isnt 'separate' from an omni meal. There is no meal which only veggies are 'allowed' to eat that omnis arent 'allowed' to eat.
Whoever said that was NOT implying that there are any meals that omnis aren't allowed to eat. (There are however, plenty of foods that lots of omnis refuse to eat because they are the "weird veggie type foods", i.e. tofu, tempeh, seitan, etc.) Instead, all they meant was that there are probably plenty of meat eaters who've occassionally had a meatless meal (a.k.a. a "veggie meal"). They either ate a more typical vegetarian meal, or, they just happened to not include meat for one meal, and even though it was meatless, it was still satisfying and fulfilling, thus, they enjoyed it.
i'll buy the tofu bit. however, a food without meat is still omni food. Remember, omnivore does not equal carnivore....vegetables are as much omni food as vegan food.
Never seen this happen before: Veg- "Want an apple?" Omni- "Sorry, but I'm omni..." Lol, no. I guess the tofu theory makes sense though. If one is eating meat, they have less reason to want to try exotic protein sources, so there is a difference there. But then again, my dad is omni but he eats veggie burgers all the time. I've heard of this being called "flexitarian". Not sure if that's actually a real word, though. And my brother's not vegan, but he drinks soymilk. My other brother's not vegan or even vegetarian, but he eats mostly vegan, because I cook for him all the time, and he likes it, tofu and all.
Megara: I am not disputing the fact that food without meat isn't still "omni food". I understand that humans are considered omnivores because we can eat everything. I agree that the term "veggie food" is a bit incorrect, but it's going to be used, whether or not you like it; it's simply a term that people use. The term "veggie food" is short for "vegetarian food", and that's a lot easier than referring to my food as "food without meat". It's just a way of shortening it up a bit, and it's really no big deal. It does not, however, indicate that it's food that a meat eater can't have. Of course you eat some of the same food we eat, i.e. fruits, vegetables, pasta, etc., you are, after all, omnivores and not carnivores. Also, I think this argument is a bit trivial, and I feel like you're just trying to split hairs, so to speak. Ophelia: It's quite sad and pathetic, but I have heard of instances where omnivores refuse "veggie food" (food that simply doesn't contain meat, megara) because they think it's just our food and everything, but even worse, I've heard of vegetarians (or vegans) saying that they don't have any food for an omnivore (a bit strange, yes, but I guess they just meant that they had no meat, and figured meatless food simply wouldn't suffice for an omnivore) Also, yes, I understand that omnivores occassionally eat and drink our "veggie food" (once again, megara.. no big deal, please don't freak out) and I know plenty of them myself. There are, however, omnivores who aren't quite as open to "veggie foods", i.e. soymilk, and do refuse to try any of it.
I cant see how anyone could honestly cut anyone down for being a vegatarian , it is with out doubt the higher road to travel, just not ment for everyone. some people are just assholes who try and sound clever and talk chit in all the forums. that said ,.if you arnt supose to eat animals then why are they made of meat?
Steffan.. for one, why is that always asked, and second.. you're also made of meat.. shall we eat you as well?
I think you have two distinct types. Firstly, there's the people who feel challenged by the notion of vegetarianism. They're intelligent enough to understand that the arguments behind vegetarianism are sound, but they don't feel capable of giving up meat. They therefore choose to direct all their energy into attacking the notion of vegetarianism as a process of denial. Secondly, you have the people who're just confrontational for a hobby. They like trolling around the forums looking for an argument. They seldom make posts where they actually agree with people. They prefer shouting and stamping their feet and insulting the opinions of others. I guess there could be all kinds of reasons behind such behaviour. It's probably down to low self-esteem, lack of self-respect, being bullied as a child or some other such trauma.
I don't think anyone has a problem with you voicing your opinion. In fact, when you can manage to do so in a way that isn't insulting and offensive, you often have something intelligent to contribute to the debate. And what exactly do you achieve with such behaviour other than disrupting someone elses thread and making people think you're a dick? I mean seriously.... what's it all about, Jim? You're not a stupid guy, so surely you can see it's just a waist of your time and theirs? Wouldn't it be far more productive to argue your point politely?
No shit. I sat and watched an omni friend pick the lettuce leaves out of a burger. I think he was scared the nutrition might poison him.
i guess for the same reason that non-christians post in the christianity forum. people like to discuss things and people like it disagree. if someone disagrees with a lifestyle, what better place to be argumentative about it than on the internet? you can always put a particularly boorish ass on ignore.
because its funny, is getting a little tired though. me and many others have to eat meat or we would starve. But I would be mourned, and whats far worse than eating meat is killing things that will be missed
I have posted in vegetarian threads merely to get answers that I seek. Although Lyndsey is the only one who has ever given a half way intelligent answer to why fish arent considered meat, and that was over drinks at the Chilis in Temecula.