Question About Morrison

I lately read a biography of Jim Morrison (among many that I have read). I also read about the Doors in a Rock Anthology type of book. They both mentioned that the Doors (along with The Byrds) were seen as plastic. I wondered why this is. I think of the Doors as very sincere. Jim never took a political stance really, and never claimed to be all about peace and love (although such things frequently get attributed to him). His songs were more about chaos, love, (but in the sex sense of the word, not the universal sense) and death. So what was so fake about the Doors. One thing that Jim really believed in was freedom, and I respect him for that. Jim didn't neccassarily hate war, he just hated the military because it was a symbol of authority and order. Songs like "The Unknown Soldier", "When The Music's Over", and "Peace Frogs" were not war protest songs in the "Peter Paul and Mary"/Ritchie Havens sense of the term. They were merley anti military songs, and songs that told the things the way they were, or "painted a musical picture" of what was going on. I don't think Jim or the Doors claimed to be anything that they were not. In fact Jim hated materialism. I read in a different biography of him that said that when he was younger his mother would give him money for clothing and he would go spend it on books. What's plastic about that?

"WEll the clock says it's time to go now, I guess I better go now"

"Where will we be when summer's gone"

 

because Jim Morrison simply couldn't write good songs or sing. He was there because he looked good.

 

O.k. jackass, here's the thing: No, Jim wasn't supposed to sing, he wanted to make movies. But when Ray heard Jim sing his song, "Moonlight Drive" he wanted Jim as the lead singer of the band. Jim is a great singer and one of the greatest songwriters in music history. He, along with Dylan and Lennon, were the only ones putting poetry to music. So next time you open your fucking mouth, sit and listen to some of Jim's songs, not ""Light My Fire", he did not write that song.

 

i must agree that your a jackass....if you don't like jim's words, thats one thing, but no one can deny that this guy can sing. his voice was beautiful and powerful...i personally believe the Doors are the best band ever to come out of LA.....everyone else has faded into obscurity.....

 

OKOK calm down, not everyone likes the Doors, and there is plenty to make someone not like them....for instance the whole "the Indians spirit jumped into me"thing.


I like them ok.


But I believe they were seen as plastic because they were sort of "new wave"at the time, for lack of a better term. Those times were flooded with retro-blues influenced bands, and while the Doors had some of that, they also had the whole keyboard psychedelic thing going. I could see them having been considered "kids stuff' at the time......same with the Byrds, although they had the man Gram Parsons with them for a while.

 

I agree...I like The Doors, but could care less if others don't. As a person who loved Hanson in high school (and likes 'em ok still) I have a pretty thick skin when it comes to my musical choices (did I forget to mention I have a soft spot in my heart for Phil Collins? Hehehe). I may think Jimbo's hot (come on, I AM female hehehe), but there is something there in all those songs...

 

hahahaha

 

Dude committed suicide over penile cancer. Get a life.

 

Ray Manzarek once said that "Jim was not a showman" And in a sense he was, and in another sense he wasn’t. Jim wasn’t a rock star; he didn’t have a single rock star quality, save his stage antics. He was a poet. He used music as a way to relay that poetry. Then he simply fell in love with fame, and that’s what killed him. That and the whiskey. The main part of Jim’s fans (including most of the people on this site) understood nothing about him. I could go into a long detailed rant about it, but I’m tired of tying to explain to the dipshits.

 

The Doors were looked down on by some of their contemporaries because they were based in LA, and many thought the real scene for music was in Frisco.

Also, its how they were handled and presented in advertising and television.

I like the doors well enough, but Jim can be over worshipped at times. He sounds okay, but he plagerises his lyrics a little too much. Too many people think he came up with "not to touch the earth, not to see the sun", two chapters back to back in a book many english language/lit. students are given titled The Golden Bough.

 

what poetry did John Lennon put into song? John Lennon was a songwriter.

I'm obviously not a dumbass, musically-knowledgless fifteen year old, I know that Robbie wrote "Light My Fire." But, musically knowledgless fifteen year old, did you know that Robbie also wrote "Love Her Madly," "Spanish Caravan," "Wishful Sinful," "Tell All the People," "We Could Be So Good Together," "The Spy," "Queen of the Highway," and "L.A. Woman," among others?

I've heard more Doors than your little brain and probably everyone else's on this forum who likes them can comprehend. I have over 800 recordings of Doors stuff, including everything that they ever recorded in a studio and hundreds of live recordings.

Last summer, I was just like you, except that I didn't have The Doors' Greatest Hits on repeat.

other poet-musicians of the time: Van Dyke Parks/Brian Wilson, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Syd Barrett... all much better than Jim Morrison.

a big minority of their live performances from early '69 to late '70 have Jim mumbling the words to most if not all of the songs.

yeah, he sure was great.

 

Jim Morrison was a great. In my experience I listen to peoples opinions but i choose to have my own and not be dictated by mainstream views if they are not wat I agree with. If u believe the band was plastic then believe that u have the right to do it. If you don't then believe that. i think Jim wrote amazing lyrics and the doors played amazing music and I don't care if they were seen as plastic. I see life through my eyes and with my eyes I choose how to live.

Sorry if im rambling. I'm not overly good at putting my thoughts into words.

 

He wasn't great live.

 

and performing live is what matters. anybody can do anything inside the studio.

 

Quite the contrary, The Beatles made their best stuff once they stoped performing live.

 

god damn your an elitist ****..... "I know how to listen to the doors better than you"...... fuck off......

 

Nothing was fake about them, just some ignorant people percieved them that way.

 

Age doesnt come into this. You are a dumbass if you cannot recognize jim's talent,as drunk as he later became,he was still a poet.

 

Amen to that. Thank you!

 

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