Vegetarianism Rocks - But PETA s*cks

Peta definatley doesn't consider stuff like that minor. But of course it's up to the laws in that state to decide whether or not the offense (like animal abuse in the home) is considered minor or not. Then up to the judge to decide the punishment....unfortunatley alot of the time the person does end up paying a fine but on peta's website they urge people to write to these judges and ask them to impose the harshest punishment possible by law. What more can they do in these situations? They are urging people treat animal abuse as a serious issue. All animal abuse.....not just the kind that goes into making food.

here is an example

 

I wish I made $28,000 a year.

 

well, i think animals lives are equal to ALL human lives, they are making the compairison between the Holocaust and the killing of animasl because the Holocaust makes such an impact in peoples minds that maybe if the compair it to the great slaughter of animals they will see how alike it is and how wrong it is. and yes, I DO THINK they are alike. people just feel more sorry for the Jewish and dont give a fuck that cows are being mass-murdered. I dont think it should be an offensiv thing to have a human life compaired to an animals, its the same thing. i like PETA because it gets the message out, even if they waste paper (so does EVERYTHING, it seems) they are getting the message out nad getting celebrities to make it seem more "cool" to be vegetarian. it's all for a good cause

 

exactly. for someone who values & respects the lives of animals no more or no less than humans, the holocaust comparison is not a stretch. And why should animals be valued any less? They have the capacity to suffer just like we do. They want to live just like we do. They exsist for their own reasons ( i forget who it was that said that but I like it). How dare we put a price on their lives. And how dare we do what we do to them only because they are defenseless against it. And it's for that reason that we should instead be extending to them our compassion and a helping hand wherever needed.

 

PETA is too.....I don't know the word for it....it seems like they try to attract people with naked ads of celebrities wearing leaves - (Pam Anderson) ...there are much better organizations out there.

 

PETA went undercover inside the primate testing lab Covance.
You can read the results here.
Covance is trying to get this site shut down in court, so go there fast.

 

In my opinion a cow's life is just as important as a human's life, but think what you like. I never hear people talking about the cow's feelings or the chicken's in KFC's factories feelings. Everyone can feel pain, fear, sadness and many other feelings, but what a can a cow do by him/herself? They can't escape from beeffarms very easily and even if they did they'd have nowhere to go. So i say we stand up and fight for these animals hat can't help themselves. I'm sure 99.9999999999% of the people reading this would save a baby from this sort of torture that animals are going through as your reading this.

 

Hahahahaha. Nice wording thar.

 

I really like PETA. They do a lot of good work to save animals. And I don't think it's wrong to teach people about the gruesome things that go on in farm factories... because people have a right to know how their food was made. That is, if you call that "food".

And being a vegetarian doesn't justify much. The torture that animals endure for eggs and dairy everyday is disgusting. Honestly, the only way to show that you actually care about animals is to be vegan... all the way.

 

Another great accomplishment by PETA.

 

DH calls PETA the "Attention Whores". lol It's true, that is what they do. I think they're a little too hardcore for my taste in a lot of what they do. Having said that, I've learned a lot (and I do mean A LOT) from their sites. There are so many articles on there that have sent me running to the bathroom to cry and vomit.

Their recent campaign, on "Milk Sucks" with the fat kid guzzling down milk and it leaking all over him is disgusting. That is not going to get people (other than sick minded jack-offs who are just there for a joke) to go further into the site and read about it. Shock value will win over some, but for the most part, people will look at that and be totally turned off and reach for their glass of 2%.

I enjoy it as a source of information, though I do take it with a grain of salt -- only so many people go there to check out good ol' Pam's erect nipples peaking through a leaf of iceburg lettuce.

Bright Blessings!
Aphrodite Pretty

 

Not a Peta fan at all. Why force your way of life on someone else?

But why is it okay for Peta to hold the high and mighty pose because they are vegan, but if someone who has a different belief in something else acts like that, people are ready to fight over it?

 

Though I think PETA has good intentions (generally), I don't agree with their methods. I remember when PETA was running this campaign against a company that had plans for a milk-based snack drink. In order to get its message across to not consume milk, PETA took the low road and accused the company of being racist because a majority of people of African descent are lactose intolerant. Huh? Why not just say you shouldn't drink milk because of cruelty in the milk industry. It's totally unnecessary to call people racists...and counterproductive. Shock value and force are not good tools to educate people. In fact, a lot of people will overcompensate by doing the opposite or just shutting down when being coerced to think or act a certain way. I really think PETA needs to concentrate on gentle education and "letting" people see how easy it is to be cruelty-free. Why not design and implement an interactive shopping guide of cruelty-free products? A way for people to easily look up their favorite products to see if they are, in fact, cruelty-free. Make it easy for people, because that seems to be the main stumbling point for most nonvegetarians and the like--they just think it's too dang expensive and hard to be cruelty-free, and so they never try.

 

its not about being tolerate of meat eaters ""way of life". its not about your views or my views, its about the exploitation and sheer torture of animals, and that is WRONG. its about them, not us....period. im sorry but unless you are killing animals because you need to for survival.....eating meat as well as dairy and eggs is just an arrogant, selfish, thoughtless and exploitative way to be. you may not like what im saying but it is what it is. its unfortunate that too many people cant seem to understand (or care really)...its not that complicated.

 

IMO, PETA as a whole is terrible, hypocritical... and I agree with you on your opinions regarding it.

However, take a small sect of PETA and it's not so bad--- I say this only because, in Wisconsin the oh-so-small group of PETA activists are NOTHING like what the organization is as a whole. It's simply a selected few people that care about animal rights and will get together for peaceful *protests*--I have been to one, and it's NOTHING like what the strong followers/members of PETA do/are like. We simply stood there with a sign, and some brochures if anyone was interested in knowing more [it was for KFC]

Most of the protests around here are not really PETA protests persay, anyway--- simply "members" of peta that decide to organize their own little thing to get people to stop and think for a minute.

however, i have seen so many things on the peta website and such that truly turn me off, and I want nothing to do with the group as a whole. The people I met around here are fine, and wonderful amazing people--but thats as far as I will go with it.

I'm not really for organizations so much, because I think when you get a group of people together it later becomes chaos. Eventually hypocritical radicals are a part of it and your whole image/reputation is dust.

I'd rather be a loner and do what I can on my own part to help.

 

I gave up trusting PETA ages ago. They claim to be an organization the supports the notion of no-kill. Guess what... if they can't find housing for animals and they want fresh new faces to come in they use the ancient methods of inventory control; FIFO (first in/first out). That is, unless an animals is one of their spokesanimals or poster children.
Guess what kiddies, any organization that is that big is going to be riddled with corruption and misleading information. Please don't think that just because a company is non-profit and swears it's helping the cause that it is going to be goodie-two-shoes and in line/synch with the law.

 

i also wanted to add, that i somewhat agree and somewhat disagree with what you said about the holocaust example...
you said that saying a jew's life is equal to that of a cows is what started it in the first place...but to me, that's only true if you're a person who does not respect other life such as cows. to me ALL people are equal to other creatures...no matter how quote-unquote "dumb" the animal is, how small, how "useless" or whatever most people factor into somehow ranking the importance of a species.

right there though--shows exactly what they were trying to point out---that people tend to look down on many other creatures therefore thinking that it's okay to simply "kill them" for whatever reason...and that is EXACTLY who racists think of other people who are different from them, thereselves.

no creature is above another in my eyes. humans are not above a dog or a cow. a dog is not above a cow. etc.

yes cows are treated inhumanely so relating it to that is quite intense, but SHOULD cows be treated the way they are? NO.

If cows were treated equal to humans...would it have been offensive?

I suppose everyone has their own "line" that they draw, and when someone crosses it, it can be offending--it all depends on the angles you look at things. I TOTALLY see where a lot of people would be offended by it-- but at the same time I see PETA's point of view on that.

Do I think they should have used that as a public example? Hell no, they should have used more common sense than to say something like so.

And do I think that method of *shock* will get people's attention? Not really; unless you ALREADY feel the way most veggies and vegans do, people are not going to pay attention to that...and yes, they will take it offensively, or at least think it sounds like crazy talk.

PETA does have a horrible way of making a point-- if they want omnivores to go vegan, they need to start thinking of what people care about--most people care about THEMSELVES and nothing else, so instead of bringing up the animals they should bring up health issues and stuff...for the most part people are selfish.. not everyone of course, but as a whole we are... and, if PETA really wants people to start going vegan... they need to start talking about things that concern PEOPLE and how animal products affect THEM.

 

I believe this is why there aren't more vegetarians/vegans. People don't like to be told they are arrogant, selfish and thoughtless (PETA does this, too). In fact, people have an overall tendency to irrationally resist coercion by belittlement, even if the overall goal of the coercion is correct.

In fact, even though I'm vegetarian, a small part of me wants to go eat a steak and tell you about it.

My point is, no one I know has changed their ways because they were told that their lifestyles were incorrect. Instead, they have changed because they have been allowed to see and have learned about (at their own paces) the various ways to live more compassionately.

 

Yes. That's what I mean. Some people will eat meat out of spite if I told them that way of life was wrong and selfish. Some raw foodist will say to vegans that they are still being selfish by still killing animals by the packaging and processed vegan food, and that vegan food still take away natural resources and all that jazz (not that I'm saying that it's true or what not, I'm not here to argue that point) but you wouldn't turn raw overnight most likely. I am a vegan, but before people who kept telling me over and over that I was wrong just made me want to eat more of it.