Getting More Worried About Health Consequences!

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by skip, Aug 9, 2005.

  1. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    Well some growers forget to flush the nitrogen at the end of the grow which gives it that harsh taste. But would too much nitrogen fuck someone physically?
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Well it's not just nitrogen we need to be concerned about. How about bug spray? It probably sticks on the plant. And it's not like we're talking about eating the plant, we're smoking it. Incinerating the weed by smoking it releases enough toxins, but with more chemicals added to the brew, the interactions & by-products are unknown to us at present. Although if there were some nasty things brewing there, I would expect exactly the same symptoms we are seeing now.

    I think growers need to re-think their priorities and make a special effort to know what the fuck they're doing, and the possible consequences of their actions.

    It would also help if certain authors would emphasize organic growing more. Seems the chemical business has a lot of money to spend on advertising, therefore many like to sing their song.

    I've been informed that chemical fertizers are no different from organic ones as far as their essential properties and potential for harm. Do you agree?
     
  3. pansy

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  4. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Indeed, here in Queensland Australia, they say the Great Barrier Reef is dying due to fertilizer runoff from the sugar cane. Well that's one of many reasons. If it can kill coral, miles away in the ocean, it probably ain't safe to consume.
     
  5. reefer121

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    only solution- grow your own weed.
    i wish i could grow my own weed...
     
  6. The Caterpillar

    The Caterpillar Member

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    Skip:

    Just a question, but now you have me a little concerned about all this, so...

    If you have a regular dealer, or a place where you generally get it from, and you never feel the poor effects that you were mentioning from smoking it, would you say that you are still pretty safe?

    The only two times I have ever freaked out were due to me not eating anything and smoking wayyyy too much for my own good. But I have never had anything like you were mentioning, with the freaking out after just a couple hits, and the bad effects lasting days or even weeks.

    So, given all the emails you have read I just want your opinion on whether or not I should be able to keep smoking the stuff I had and be fine, or whether there is more stuff involved in this all than I know about.

    (By the way, I haven't smoked in a couple months but am going back to college in a week and will start up again then.)
     
  7. deadhead123654

    deadhead123654 Banned

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    i have never seen anyone freak out on weed alone and have heart problems and the such.. they prolley have some really messed weed.. and i dont think that it is that big of a problem anyway, b/c there are millions of ppl who smoke and hwo many emails did u get? i think its a very small percentage who have these effects

    also if u are that concerned about ur health that u feel weed could seriosuly harm u then stop smoking!
     
  8. dirtybongwater

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    I've heard of people having similiar experiences, and its always been with chemy bud. I try to stick to only organic bud, but sometimes you don't got much of a choice. In which case i either don't smoke or smoke very little.
     
  9. WeeDMaN

    WeeDMaN a pothead

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    People start getting mental problems when they smoke higher concentrated weed(in my opinion) or Hash oil.I have smoked ALOT of oil in a week and actually felt the difference in my acting,reactions etc;. I myself have never seen anyone freak out on smoking weed, accept a bad trip or greening(puking after smoking too much). But who knows how BC bud is grown, thats where most of it comes from here. I have gotten headaches from smoking really harsh, super dry weed. But I think most freakouts like the ones you talk about in the e-mails are probably from a mental disorder that runs somewhere along the lines of the family, I mean, in edmonton everyone smokes bud and ALOT of it, well not everyone but you get the picture. And we dont have people who freakout or anything like that.
     
  10. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    i think the thing might be... over consumption... yea... everyone has smoked "great weed" but there will always be something out there that you sooner or later get your hands on that is much stronger that what you may concider primo... and that i think is the main reason for people getting ill or having bad experiences... you're not use to a higher high... i've had this problem once or twice before... usually coming from "creeper weed" ya know bud that creeps up on ya... and after smokin a whole bowl or two.. thinkin the shit was weak... ya get hit... and go comatose... its just the nature of theres better ways of growing these days... and new strains that are stonger and yeild better than what use to be out there... times are a changin'... as dylan would say
     
  11. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    also... i think you should worry about the dealers more than the growers themselves.... alot of dealers are out there to bring you the "bomb bud" that they decided to dip in somethin or lace with so that you get a killer high according to them... so that they can make insane profits...
     
  12. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Yeah, growing your own is the safest way to go, but not practical for everyone. It's also a hard skill to learn to get really good results.

    Yes, I agree that sometimes the weed is just so much stronger than you're used to. And some people have written that they'd been away from weed awhile then took too much of strong stuff, which of course is an obvious cause of a reaction.

    I don't know what makes you think that EVERY one who has a bad pot experience writes ME. So it's not fair to say that the letters I get are not proportional to the # of people having negative experiences. I do occasionally get email from ppl saying they love getting stoned without mentioning a negative experience, but there are far more who do.

    I suppose I should also say that this is mostly email directed at the Old Hippy, who no longer answers emails (I sure wish ppl would stop writing him, as it's a good portion of my email!). They're all looking for advice on these problems. I rarely have time to reply and most letters are repetitive.
     
  13. skip

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    I really don't think many dealers bother to fuck with their shit (other than shaking it real good to get some choice hash for themselves). It's too risky, involves other drugs that they must also pay for and possess and process.

    Adulterating marijuana is a real, unnecessary crime.
     
  14. skip

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    BTW, I'm also concerned that much mj that gets sold to medical patients isn't organic. These people must consume cannabis in large quantities and if they're already weak, the added chemicals could have a much greater effect on them.

    I believe they should be using vaporizers, eating the cannabis or extracting the resin so they don't need to smoke all that plant matter, where the chemicals are concentrated.

    Indeed making isolater hash (wet) or pollinator hash (dry) is probably much healthier for everyone. But of course processed hashish often carries heavier penalties for possession, and everyone should be aware of the laws where they are.
     
  15. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    that is odd, i wonder if there are chemicals being aplied after harvest that makes weed apear to be more potent? I have yet to have any problems, aside from occational headaches, but that has always happened when i smoke to much, or don't drink enough water. I sure do hate that chemical taste of weed that hasnt been flushed though
     
  16. pansy

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  17. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    have the increased freakout rates coincided at all with age, or with a general increase over the last decade or so, or would you say in the recent past, random people from around the place are reporting worse effects? I mean there are lots of environmental factors that can add to psychological effects.
     
  18. NatureFreak412

    NatureFreak412 Art of Balance

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    THere was some grass that had been dipped in embalming fluid floating around here a few months ago, a dude was trying to sell me some, I was like no way in hell.

    Also we got ahold of some with some pcp in it. Other than those incidents its always been the same with me. I prefer naturally grown ganja.
     
  19. StonerBill

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    pcp is called embalming fluid isnt it?
     
  20. skip

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    No PCP is animal tranquilizer (like for elephants & horses)
     
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