As clear as a TCH crystal!

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by requin, Aug 9, 2005.

  1. requin

    requin Member

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    There is no God! and if there is one he doesn't give a f*ck about us!
    Why? think it over, can such a powerful creature as God (creator of all) allow all the shit in the world? religion just like politics is just another way of mass control... And God said: you shall not : bla bla bla bla bla bla bla ETC! just think of what he said you shall not do... you'll see... it's just a perfect way of controling the masses... and maybe i'm wrong... maybe he's there... what shall he do to me? make me burn in hell? LOL aaaaaaa... like when you'r dead you can't feel shit because you ARE DEAD... so what's he going to burn? my neurons maybe? Ok maybe religion is good because it keeps good people good, it would probably be chaos if all mankind would stop beliving in god... but the amount of control is gettin` way to FAT! The new Pope just said a while ago that Turkey can't join EU because they are not all christians. Who the f*ck does that mother f*cker think he is to deny a country the right to join EU just because the people living in that country have different religion?
    Enlarge your vision... Stop the fear of God, if he really exists he will not punish you because he is much grater than you, even if you'd try to upset him you couldn't do it! We are just small pieces of carbon, living on a green and blue planet, lost in the waters of the Milky Way, to small to offend such a entity as God, that if he even exists...
     
  2. requin

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    P.S... Let me know what you think
     
  3. thumontico

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    I agree with your point, but less with the rambling...

    All accounts of God seem to exist in a state of hypocracy. The Christian and Jewish God is full of Love, Compassion, and Forgiveness, yet he has no problem destroying entire cities and flooding the Earth when offenses reach a critical point.

    Don't get me wrong, anything written by man I consider unreliable, especially when it was written by inferior people, i.e. those with considerably less knowledge of the actual workings of nature, rampant misogyny, and cultural biases which I and most of modern civilization disagree with. I am baffled by the amount of weight the Bible and other religious books and writings have with people.

    People should be good (whatever that is to them) just to be good. People who preach their brand of ethics with the reward for obedience being eternal bliss and punishment being eternal suffering are full of shit on many levels.
    Firstly, talking about Christians generally, it is claimed that people should be good people because they want to, yet they simultaneously have the reward of heaven and the punishment of hell constantly in the back of their mind. This is not true obedience to a God, this obedience for a reward or out of fear, without Love for a God as they constantly claim it is.

    People who need God, need God. That is not to say that one cannot be weened off Him, but he is ultimately unnecessary and a hinderance to anyone seeking Authenticity for themselves, as well as a hinderance to the creation of one's own Ethic because obviously the omniscience of God trumps our attempts to interpret the world around us. But when we accept His improbability everything makes more sense...

    I believe in the possibility of a Creator being chiefly because it is difficult for me to imagine a universe that has always existed, but that doesn't mean I dismiss that possibility. I am agnostic in that way, I accept what I cannot know. Even still with the possibility of a creator being it is Apparent through my nearly eightteen years of existence that this possible creator being has NO affect on my life what so ever. I thank my parents for my existence.

    Government is necessary, anarchists are foolish. The point of democracy and republicanism is that the masses control themselves.

    Religion has the least influence it ever has had, I think. With science people no longer have to make up explainations for stange phenomena. Turkey is probably mostly Islamic (I don't know/care), that is probably why the Pope does not support them to join the EU. There is no country that is entirely Christian though, so I doubt he is as firm on the issue as you claim.
     
  4. requin

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    thanks for the reply, i find what you said interesting, hope more ppl join this topic, i am curious how ppl from all over the world see god and religion
     

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