You hardly ever see Liberals become Conservatives

Why is that?

You know, when I was young, I was very much a conservative Republican. I aligned myself with my parents who still are Republicans, thought Reagan was the man, even thought highly of Bush Senior when he first came into office. I thought this way because I grew up in an upper middle class conservative town in Massachusettes. Bush Senior's term coincided roughly with my high school years and during that time, I started to ask questions and seek out truth from what I had been told all along.

Now today I would consider myself very liberal - not extreme left, but definitely left of center.

It seems that this happens quite often that those who are conservative become more liberal with age. However, you hardly ever seem to see those who are liberal, become conservative.

 

i always thought it was the other way around. where a lot of people grow up liberal (not because of their parents, i mean like you.. figured it out) and with time changed to be a conservative. like going from hippie to yuppie.

 

First off, this is my unbiased opinion. I think some people on the forum's believe I'm a Bush loving nazi, in which case stop flaming me. But those of you who've read enough of my posts will know that I'm not biased either way, I hate both ends of the political spectrum equally.

That said, when you look at the ideaology of both sides, the liberal one is the more "appealing" when choosing based on it's supporters. Hollywood, musicians, Michael Moore, etc. all favor the left strongly, so the natural inclination of the blind, media-enslaved Americans is to gravitate toward that, rather than a party of middle aged guys with no face in the media. So kids who are raised by theit conservative parents are likely to "rebel" and go left for whatever reason.

It's also the louder party, with more activists, celebrities, and general mud flinging (not that the right dosenn't fling mud, but the left does it more), so those who are undecided and have no care for politics are more likely to have heard more bad stuff about the republicans then the democrats, so the logical thing to do is to lean to the left.

And to be blunt, there are a lot of liberals who only support what they support to make themselves feel good. Protesting The Man, supporting welfare and social programs without any knowledge of economics to back up that position, and giving $1.50 a month to a kid in Africa will make some shallow people feel like they are genuinely making a difference. Not that the left's idals are wrong, just that some of the people who support those ideals only do so because it makes them feel good, and they do it without any real consideration for the other side of the coin.

Hope that answers your question. I'm not saying that you're decision to become a liberal is wrong (liberals are right on a lot of issues), just that others who make the same decision don't do so based on real knowledge or information.

 

Trust me Max, Woody Harralson et al. had nothing to do with me developing into a liberal.


To me I feel the greatest factor is education. If you look at the states that traditionally tend to be liberal, Vermont, NY, NJ, California, Mass, Ct, etc they all tend to have the highest rated public education systems.

 

Kid's that go through the public education system are more likely to have liberal ideas because teachers tend to be left wing.

 

Er, what's that supposed to mean? They don't have teachers in private schooling?

 

Yes, and not just the public shools, the government in general is becoming more and more "politically correct" (not necessarily liberal, but a lot of liberals do support the politically correct ideal), and more liberal in that respect. And I guess there are more left wing teachers than right wing teachers, so that probably has something to do with it too.

 

I actually went to private school Westpoint

 

This makes no sense to me what so ever. So there aren't any public schools in Texas? My suggestion is concerning quality of education and a quality education will teach you to ask questions and not accept the first answer - to look beyond and search out all of the possible scenarios.

 

That's way too much work for Joe America. Look for real answers when he could be sitting on the couch eating potato chips and watching Sportscenter? I think not.

 

and see a Bush commercial between broadcasts saying, "God wants me to be President." Well golly mista, if God says so, it must be true, I'm gonna vote fer that guy there then.

 

Yeah, right. Trying to discredit "liberal" viewpoints by bringing up celebrities and shit certainly doesn't seem "unbiased" to me.

Considering conservatives are usually the Enron/Dick Cheney types, the type of people that don't mind ripping off thousands of others.....you don't think that sort of BS might have something to do with it? Celebrities have nothing to do with it, unless you're talking about some starry-eyed 14 yr old. There's more than enough proof in the actions of many conservatives (conservatives in control of this country, no less) to help people decide to become liberal.

 

Amen Moonshyne. Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

Who said I was tyring to discredit them? I'm looking over my post, and I don't see where I said the liberal viewpoint is bad. Maybe I'm losing it, could you point out for me where you got that?

That's no different then saying all liberals are usually the Michael Moore types; it's an extreme generalization that you wouldn't like applied to you, don't apply it to others.

No, but the noise that celebrities and the like make might. If a person is more or less ignorant to the ways of politics, how else would he hear about political candidates?

But yeah, the actions of corrupt conservatives probably have something to do with people going liberal. But there are plenty of corrupt liberals in office and in power, so it could work that way too.

 

Maybe it wasn't intentional, but your entire post implies that so-called "liberals" are either trendy celebs, rebeling teens, mudflingers...basically making it sound as if being "liberal" is simply the "in" thing to do. Considering who the dopes are that are running this country, I'd hardly say that's the case.

I'm not saying that ALL conservs all like the enron fucks are dick cheney, but the ones who commit those white collar crimes like fraud, embezzlement (sp?) and so on are usually commited by conservatives. Michael Moore certainly doesn't represent the "liberal" pholks anymore than Dick reps the other guys, but at least Mike isn't out there stealing from the people who work for him.

Schools, for one thing, at least here in the south. My teachers used to try to tell us why the civil war was wrong, and why slavery simply "didn't exist" around here. Radio & television are infested with conservative-leaning owners....it doesn't matter what a celeb thinks if no one knows about it. When radio stations won't allow john lennon songs to be played and start banning the Dixie Chicks because they don't like their messages, how on earth can you call that liberal? You don't see commercials bad-mouthing the president....you don't see news coverage reporting on the US bombing Iraqi neighborhoods and killing entire families....all because certain people (hint..it's not the liberal celebs) don't want you to know about it.

If you're refering to democrats, I'd hardly call them liberal. They're the same thing as republicans, except on superficial issues like abortion (we know that won't be made illegal anytime soon) and taxes. Marijuana won't be legalized, our prison system will not be reformed...no matter who wins this election, be it bush or kerry, i don't see that there will be any drastic change. Same shit, different piles. Gross, but true. (^.^)

 

you never see conservatives become anything. they always stick in the muck. (and never have an original thought.)

 

So no liberals commit white collar crime? btw, slavery was pretty much isolated to the elites of the south, Joe Confederate didn't have many slaves, if he had any. Moonshyne, do you like high taxes? Do you like the idea of your money that assuming you work for goes to lazy bums? You need to get off your republicans suck soapbox and realize things about the world. Low taxes are good, welfare is bad, political correctness raises wimps, and most of the shit tossed at you about the civil war is false.

Also, i was once a hradcore liberal, but then is started working and seeing a fat chunk of my paycheck leave.

 

Liberals become consevatives when they make thier first million.

 

Oh, stop your whining, gothbaby. Apparently you need to learn to READ before you start running off at the mouth. Did I say anything about republicans? Well, what I did say included republicans, but I suppose if you weren't just wanting an excuse to whine you'd have noticed that.

I don't know of any lazy bums that "get my money." Having actually seen and experienced poverty first hand, as well as knowing many people that have had to deal with it, i can tell you that very little of your hard earned money goes to lazy bums. You don't know what kind of shit you have to go through to get gov't assistance. Well over half of people who recieve assistance DO work themselves, and the most of the other half are disabled or have legit reasons for being on it. But i guess actual facts wouldn't mean anything to someone like you. It's easier for your simple mind to ASSume their all bums and then you don't have to deal with the reality of the problems this country has.

Civil war....No SHIT it was false. Because it was the conservative ass teachers teaching it, and conservative religious bitches like them like to pretend that white people are holy and godly and have done no wrong. They also tried to teach us that the KKK was started to help poor white famers recover their livelyhoods. It was just a coincidence that they also murdered black people.

Next time you have something to say to me, please at least try to be sure that you're not simply spewing random negativity (I know it's probably hard for a grievous angel to do something like that, but there's no point in not trying) and get your shit right.

Have a happy sunshine filled day! (^.^)

 

That's pretty much your opinion, not "realizing things about the world." Personally I think it's kinda selfish to bitch about tax money going to poor people, if you're well-off yourself, but that's just my opinion as well.

Eh, that didn't happen to me when I started working. I'm probably not going to be wealthy anyway for a while, going into journalism. I really don't mind taxes, though maybe I'd like to see it distributed differently.