Do you believe in marriage?

i guess i want to get married just because it will make me more comfortable, knowing that this person has promised me to stay with me and everything in the vows in front of all these people, it's kind of hard to explain, but i dont want a religious wedding- more just a celebration of our love and for everyone to have a good time!

 

Marriage is just a sack of shit lol. As far as I can tell, you get married just so after yo uboth have cheated on each other, the one who tells first gets yelled at. Why does everyone cheat? fukin biatches. lol

 

i never read it that way nor said anything to that extent myself.

this sounds better than what you originally posted, but id like to see some evidence ie:research

you never mentioned an increase in emotion you simply stated the development of the emotion. and whats to say the same doesnt happen a man during sex. (evidence)

i agree with you that free love is not the correct term. it should be called free sex

true but its the males job to attempt to be as attractive as he can be in order to be selected, and the male has the choice still to decide which female he wishes to attempt to attract

all im trying to say is that i dont think its fair for you to degrade men as i feel you had in the post i first replyed to.

peace....and love bob

 

StrawberryFieldsForever, First of all those 'nice guys' you brought up who don't at least have the instinct to screw everything in sight are at least probably a little gay... The hard wired urge to father as many children as possible has saved our species from extinction several times, and do we even get thanked for it? Sorry if i give into my basser instincts every now and then, but I'm not doing anything wrong, and I dont really care if your not into the whole 'free love' thing, (your probably not my type) but if another woman doesn't share you shallow aditude towards sexuality or finds one night stands liberating doesn't mean theres been any past of horrific sexual abuse or shes a biological freak or something.
Saying theres a difference between free love and free sex is trivial, but saying whatever it is is the most idiotic idea ever, did you consider war, or the reform party or whatever!!! Hell, I'm sorry if you got hurt by some promiscuous jerk or something, and you have a right to be freaking cellibate if you want to, but if a man or a woman wants to treat sex like a damn buffet before they find out what they like, theres nothing wrong with it. Scaring people from exploring themselfs with tales about how they'll die from AIDS and leave a starving baby to rot on the street is kinda obsurd.

Condoms are very very effective aginst HIV and Hep C, and most other STD's that arent protected by wearing a condom can be cured with antibiotics. Nothing wrong with a little disgression either, some people you just dont want to sleep with.... If condoms are worn properly they are way more effective then the 85% you've probably heard touted, that numbers lower because of improper application, and if a girls on the pill too, then chances of pregnancy are ALMOST impossible. Life's not childproof, your going to get cut. But if your careful, not too deep.

For christs sake your 17, your at least.... 10 years to young to be so negative about sex. This is as good as its going to get. Have some fun, Dont wear a helmet, take ecstasy with some guy named whispering pine. but if your going to be a bore, dont rain on my damn parade.

 

yea theese guys is lost , the puritan pillgrim forums is that way !

 

free love is fine as long as both parties are into it wholeheartedly. If it doesn't suit ya, fine by me, that's cool. If you like it, well cool, go fuck and have your fun while you still can. But I agree that with free love ... free sex there MUST be protection used. We got enough damn kids in this world (me being one of them!). Trust me, I know a lot of kids, and we really don't need more! Would you want someone like me living in your house, all because you were horny? HaHaHa. kidding. But I myself am all for it in certain cases, what the Hell, as long as I use protection, I find nothing wrong with having a little fun. Of course, not until I'm older. I'm waaaay to immature at the moment. Sex is good for more than just reproducing! (shock!) ..... hahaha..... ok im done being a jackass now.

As far as marriage, I'm not sure if it's for me. I'd rather have it unofficial. The problem with it is that people have all this expectations going in and when those expectations aren't met, the marriage often ends. I don't think I could be with one person my whole life. But then again, I only plan to live to be 35 or so anyway.

In the end.... whatever floats your boat. To each his own. :H

~~rock on hip people~~

 

so maybe i got it a little wrong the first time. excuse me for not being as eloquently spoken as mauricelcassidy. he said exactly what i was trying to say, strawberry. i don't mean offense, but i feel like you're being pretty offensive. that's besides the point.

1. "free sex" IS a better term. that's more what i was talking about
2. i know many children are brought into this world not knowing a father. but it's not the worst thing in the world, in fact it's pretty common. kids survive, and are entirely healthy. don't use me as proof of that last statement, as i get the feel you're not too fond of me, but i'm one of those kids.


//sigh. i agree with cassidy. i dont have the energy to restate everything he said, but that's the jist of it.

 

id like to say i understand your anger but as i have not experienced this.i can only say that i respect it. there is no doubt that if someone chooses to take part in free sex they should first concider the consequences and understand the responsibility they are taking on.

i appreciate that you agree with me. as for me being offensive i appologize. i guess as one of those "nice guys" ( as others call me) i find myself more sympathetic toward both sexes.

peace bob

 

i believe in love...marriage is just a formality. My parents decided to get married in secret, cos they didnt want their families to spend money on something that was so unnecesary. They have always told me they thought there was no point on inviting lots of people, feed them in exchange of presents, etc at their expenses when later on the couple have trouble, no ones there to help.

I'm hoping to get married some day, when i feel ready.

 

oh no dont get me wrong! i dont take offense to you maurice, at all.

my point is ... i'm not angry? it's kind of like... whatever happens happens. it's all there for a reason.

 

self professed nice guys ......run for cover ladies !

 

makno's right, guys who say they are 'nice' are the worst of us all.

 

heh heh... well said manko

its sad but true.

anyway i dont like nice guys..... I'm not a nice girl. I like bi-polar psychopathic, crazy, tortured poetic, ballsy, conifident, dark, evil , bastard rockers. With good music taste and long hair. yeah, okay, i know its idealistic.:H

But i think those guys are all dead now so looks like I'm screwed...

nah I'm just kidding. Anyone will do if I find I love 'em. It doesn't really follow a pattern, just specail guys who are kinda funny, usually perverted, anyway...ooooops waaaay off topic there, sorry, nobody cares what i like, ooops. ummmm..... anyway sorry.

ya I dont think i could be married. Then it takes the fun and passion out of it. I dont want to settle down. ya i wanna run wild with my man, not run a household! anyway sorry i make no sense i need to go to bed now.

~~~~PEACE~~~~~~

 

woa i clearly stated that others have said that im a nice guy. i dont believe it at all honestly. i hate recieving praise especially for something that i have little control over. i dont even like telling people when my birthday is to avoid being given gifts. i am an eagle scout and although i met the criteria and others thought i did well, i dont believe i should have recieved the rank. i recently went through a time where many people were telling me i was "the man". i hated it. i had to sit down and talk to my best friend to even begin to comprehend why i was "the man". as for being self professed. im not or i dont mean to be and im sorry i even said that im a "nice guy". in fact i might as well be an asshole. so fuck everyone. you know.(unfortunatly through typing i cant express my sarcasm)

peace bob

 

im, sorry , i mis-read. I didn't mean to talk about you personally, mauricelcassidy, I was talking about the "nice guy" image in general... I've found from experience that other "nice guys" I've met have turned out to be not-so-nice at all...

really, I hope I didnt send the wrong message. I'm sure your actually a nice guy, which would mean you couldn't possibly be a "Nice Guy".

sorry... my bad.

~~peace~~

 

i believe in it

 

I absolutely believe in marriage! I'm currently engaged and planning my wedding . It's gonna be pretty small though. Just close family and friends. And anyway, the wedding is the celebration of the beginning of a marriage, which is a lifelong commitment. That's how I see it anyway. That's why my wedding is only gonna include those few people we're inviting. Anyway...We're both Christian, so of course we wanna do that whole committing ourselves to each other before God, and of course we wanna have the legal part of it....which I really wish ANYONE who was in love could have . I actually believe we've done the Christian thing already...I mean...God kinda knows we're committed to each other already . But, like I said, we wanna share it with our loved ones.


My buddy read something back a few years ago in a class that mentioned how wedding ceremonies only came about because people would decide to live together and share things only to have one of them back out later like they didn't agree in the first place. They decided they needed witnesses for it...and that just grew and ballooned into the mammoth sized weddings some people have today. It's not really about the food, decor, dress, anything like that....that's all for fun really....mainly for the guests anyway.... From what I've read, most of our traditions these days came from the Victorian times anyway....very showy times y'know.

I don't think marriage is for everyone...and I definitely think too many people these days don't take it seriously enough... but it's certainly for me and my sweetie. I think it's beautiful. There are only two people in my whole family that I know of who have ever been divorced. There are so many truly happy couples in my family...I'm very lucky to be surrounded by all that love.

 

For those who can handle a relationship within a certain institution such as marriage, I say go for it! This includes a polygamous (polyanderous, polygynous or group marriage) as well as monogamous.

Unfortunately, I'm not convinced that all of us can confine ourselves to such (an) institution(s).

We have got to get rid of the notion that 'one size fits all' for relationships. People are different and have different needs. So long as there's no abuse involved, we should never judge others' relationships.

 

I think the ceremony of marriage is unnecessary when two people really love each other and already know what they feel for each other

 

yea i thinks yer on the rite track ....i hope yer life kicks ass....courage and inovation ...can work wonders !