Iraq troop pullout

Any thoughts on this one? A general says troop pullout may begin next spring, as long as the insurgency doesn't get any worse.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8720622/

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next spring! it should have been last spring.. it pisses me off that this is happening, but all the troops that are over there volunteered to go, and this is wat happens when u volunteer for the army... they arnt making ppl go over

 

And then it's on to [insert country to be bombed here]

 

It probably might have been last spring if the ''insurgency'' did not deciede to start its suicide bombing campaign and such..one step forward two steps back.

 

Not realistic.
Most terrorists in Iraq are not native but from surrounding countries like Syria. Iraq is a magnet for terrorists only because the American army is there. The so called great enemy of Islam doing a crusade. If an arabic army had invaded the problems wouldn't be so great as they are now.

But America invaded unfortunately. Now they can't pullout. The Iraqi's have no way to defend themselves. The Iraqi police is trained poorly. They will collapse and the Iraqi government too. Allot of people will die. Everybody who may have been collaborating with the unholy Americans. And then you have an Iran two. Where a women can be stoned to death because she watched threw the window without her husbands permission.

An example off a pullout gone bad is vietnam. After the war thousands (maybe millions) were persecuted and executed for suspicions of collaborating. 2 million flee the country.

 

Actually recent reasearch showed that most resistance fighters were home grown. Also, i think that most of hte resistance would pak up and go home if the imperialists pulled out.

 

Most suicide bombers appear to be foreign. And why would people who declared democracy to be "against god" go home if the US left?

 

So naive. They see the current government as collaborators with the devil. They will unleash an civil war between the ethnic groups in Iraq.
Starting with the Kurds and the Shiites who sunnites don't like because they are seen as frienlies with the Americans.
Democracy is not the ultimate solution in countries who have never known it. It will be anarchy.
Democracy only works in a country with a good Economy and Justice system. Whit good education systems.
Everything which Iraq doesn't have. They don't even have Electricity.

 

It wont be anarchy. Anarchy is peace harmony and equality. However most of the insurgents aren't islamic fundementalists, as they are usually presented as.

 

Anarchy allows the strong to rise to the top and rule the weak

Not the real system of anrchy, you are thinking of the anrcho capitalists.

 

That's nihlism.

 

Its unrealistic to pull them out. The only thing worse than invading a country and bombing its infrastructure is leaving before its rebuilt and before it has forces to protect its own citizens.


quote: im thinking of complete anarchy, survival of the fitist. The law of the jungle. All that good shit.


thats true, anarchy means no control at all, no laws

 

http://www.suntimes.com/output/terror/cst-nws-ties24s1.html

But Bush had to invade Iraq in order to fight the terrorism that resulted from the invasion.

Something's wrong with that logic.

The Bush administration did exactly what al Qaeda wanted: it got the U.S. involved in a protracted conflict in the Mideast and smeared its reputation around the Muslim world and the allies of the U.S. (what few are left).

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I heard on NPR the other day that the claim that insurgents are mostly from foreign countires is besides the fact completely unverifiable, but also probably false. Most of the insurgents are Sunni Muslims who do not want to lose their power.
Oh, and Iraq has been in a state of civil war for four hundred years.

 

We are never pulling out of Iraq.

Haven't any of you people even read PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses," which calls for permanent troops to be stationed in Iraq?

We might pull out in terms of full-scale status, but I believe we will always remain there in a prominent way.

 

That's why the U.S. govt was so supportive of Saddam in the 80s. He was one of the few with an iron fist who could maintain order over there.

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I think it's about more than just oil.

 

we will never compleatly pull out of iraq we will keep a large millitary base there for the next 100yrs atleast this was part of the reason we went there to begin with

 

would that be a good or bad thing ?