Why Blame the Satan on things YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN?

Forgive me for generalising all Christians to think this but whenever I suggest something that can happen/has happened that is possibly supernatural all Christians (that I have talked to) can say is "it's Satan" or "it's Demons".

If it is good then they will say it is God of course... but if it isn't (it may still be good) but the bible does not mention it to be possible or it says it isn't right then it is suddenly evil. Q. Why is it evil, by demons or Satanly? IMHO It isn't. It's just a way of being scared into being "good"… only society’s moral view of it, just like the bible… it was really created by men to rule other men.
I mean yeah, there are some things in the bible which make sense, like honour your mother and father, do not kill etc that I think are good to do but why need a bible to tell you that. If you have been brought up properly, it's just common sense. You do not need a bible to tell you this. Not that that will be accepted here.
If we aren’t doing what God says/if we do not repent (reminds me of the communists telling people to conform etc…) then we get to burn in the fiery pits of hell… woo, I’m loving all that “free will” there!!

p.s. I may be going away for a few days but I will be back soon - hope to hear some converting arguments

 

I'm surprised that no one answered yet... But I very much agree with you!

I believe that folks who quickly jump to blaming something on 'Satan's work' are using that as a cop out excuse to learning what it really is.

Ideal example: I was raised Catholic, my whole family is very catholic. Growing up I always questioned my spirituality and my place in the church etc... Anyway, long story short I became Wiccan, and I've been practicing that since I was about 18 or so...

My father is convinced that what wicca is is a cult, or a satan-worshiping phase, it's very bizarre. But a large part of it comes from his deeprooted faith in the Catholic church, and it's very difficult to shake that stereotype from him.

Point being I know exactly what you mean. It's very easy to blame it all on Satan when something goes wrong, it's really too easy of a solution for everything.

 

Although Bible speaks about Satan many times, I personally do not think that there is a power that can oppose God successfully. I mean, God or Goddess, by definition, is all-powerful and all-knowing, and there is every reason for Him to get rid of anything that opposes His/Her Will.
In fact, everything that happens happens by that Will.

On the other hand, human mind cannot live without idea of good and evil. So, certain events are labeled as good and others as bad. This leads to the idea of Satan being responsible for bad stuff. It is called duality. At certain moment in meditation, though, our mind can surpass the duality and see everything as perfect. At that time we see everything "from a distance", and it indeed looks perfectly harmonious so that even the thought of evil never occurs. That's the true seeing.

 

The fact is demons do exist and they look for those who are will to take their bait hook line and sinker. There are good spirits and there are bad ones. They come from the devil or God. God does not play religion games. He does not appear as Allah one day and then some other God the next day. That is why the bible states we should test the spirits to see if they are from the true God. The bible states that every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ is Lord is a true spirit. The Devil loves religion, it is the best way to pull men from God. Once mens eyes are turned on strange Gods, they often will never find the true God, that has been there all the time. I have had encounters with demons, and there is an evil that defies description. Their hate for Christ is so great, and if you ever had an encounter with them you will find this out. Demons imbrace all world religions, but they hate Christianity. As far as blaming Satan I would need an example. When a demon spoke to me on one occasion and told me he was going to kill me, I did blame that on Satan.

 

Often evil does win out because the people themselves give into the evil. Rather then serve God they serve the Devil. God gave His creation free will.
And the reason there is so much murder in this world is because men would rather choose the evil. God is calling those who love Him out of this world. I don't see the murder of 6 million Jews or other terrible past or present events as perfectly harmonious. I have had encounters with demons and I can tell you there is real evil in this world. Also these demons have a special hate for Jesus Christ.

 

The FACT? Certainly there must be some empirical proof for you to make this assertion. Personal experiences will not convince me because there are several more plausible things that can go on in your head to make you believe you see some sort of demon than you actually seeing one. Especially when you have years of "The Fear of God" primed into your mind.

 

answer this question then......how come non christians always blame something bad that happens on god!

 

I don't know that they do. I certainly don't.

 

Thats a pretty big generalisation there. I personally dont know any non-christians who blame bad stuff on god.

 

e.g.......natural disasters and famine in the 3rd world
'if there is a god why does it all happen'

 

How the fuck is that blaming god?

 

people do!
oh god must have done it.......i hear it a million times at college because of the tsunami disaster

 

You are refering to God's inaction.

 

They don't... Many don't even believe in god...

 

First, you are asking for sensory evidence of a being that is wholly non-corporeal. That is self contradictory. Also, there are many things that are facts that lack empirical proof. Abstract concepts (love, truth, beauty, logic) have no empirical proof. That is WHY they are abstract.

ab·stract ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-strkt, bstrkt)
adj.

1. Considered apart from concrete existence: an abstract concept.

Thoughts have no empirical proof, nor do the minds that produce them. Yet would you say that the existence of your own mind is not a fact? Probably not. How do you know that it is real? Experience ("I think therefore I am" and all that jazz). That doesn't mean that you should accept unquestioningly when other people say that they have experienced something phenominal or unlikely, but you should (and probably do) accept it as evidence when you have no evidence to the contrary, the person who is forwarding the information is reliable/trustworthy, and the assertion is reasonable.

So is there evidence against the existence of demons? Are the many people who claim to have experiences with demons reliable insofar as they would give an honest and accurate testimony? Is the assertion of demon's existence reasonable?

Even if there are more plausible alternatives, you must consider them all. As Holmes said, "When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." So, if the other more plausible explanations are refuted, you are left with the existence of demons as a fact. You should never dismiss something solely on the grounds of it being improbable though (and it looks like that is what you have done).

 

i think many christians blame satan, for things they dont understand or fear, because they fear satan, and make the connection, if its scary its evil, and if its evil its the work of satan.

 

Corinthians 1:5 "hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord".

Some christians don't read the bible enough. Satan is a disciplinary tool of God. There is nothing 'wrong' with Satan, it just is not enjoyable to be disciplined by God. The outcome of discipline is enjoyable- knowledge, wisdom, and understanding.

You know how when you first start a workout regimen you get really sore and it isn't all that fun? Consider Satan to be a spiritual workout coach made by God.

 

peace_sells: Because people don't want to admit that "shit happens"!!!

They feel helpless to prevent all the bad things that happen in their life (as well as the world in general)... so by blaming it on the devil, then saying that god will protect them from it, they feel protected and secure...

 

I'm sure this has been said somewhere already or something by now.. but it's simple, surley??? if god cared about his creation, he would protect us, no?

 

1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

And others ignore context and audience relevance.

This passage refers specifically to allowing non-repentant adulterers and fornicators (specifically male prostitutes) to remain within the church. The passage simply states that when they refuse to repent, they should be ejected from the church because such tolerance of unrepentant sin is destructive. Love the person, but do not sacrifice holiness for the sake of tolerance (which is what Corinth was doing). This passage does not speak to Satan being a tool (though he can be). And the idea that there is nothing "wrong" with Satan is simply non-scriptural. He is known as "the Dragon", "the old serpent", "the father of lies"; he is described as a "roaring lion seeking whom he may devour." The word Satan means "adversary" and "accuser".

That is wholly unsupported by scripture. Can God use Satan as a disciplinary tool? Yes, just as He can use other worldly evils. That does not imply, however, that the whole of Satan's purpose is to act as a disciplinarian. He IS evil and there are many things that ARE wrong with him. He is not at all a "spiritual workout coach." A coach is hard on you (sometimes impossibly hard), but wants you to succeed. Satan doesn't want that. He wants you to fail completely.