New Zealand is an anti-nuke country

Let's all give New Zealand a big round of applause.

Yay for New Zealand!!!

 

lol, have you been studying our wee island or something?

yes, we are nuclear free.
although if the national party gets in at the up coming election that might change - i hope to god it doesn't, but the usa is putting some hella pressure on the government to revise the policy.

but dammit i like nuke freeness.

 

ooooooh..dont think so!

We've just made it the sticking point to improving our soured relations and a necessary concession for getting a free trade deal.

i wouldn't call that pressure though..just a stipulation at the bargaining table.

 

i actually haven't been studying new zealand but the minister talked about it at our church

the anglican church there has an expansive and love hearted message in its new litany that has embraced themes of maori spirituality

that's where I heard that the maoris like to play golf and one of them even beat Tiger Woods to be the best in the world

 

lol,
basically if you don't abandon your nuclear free policy, you will never have free trade and tariffs will be very expensive to boot.

sounds like pressure to me

and you know that if the brash caves, then there will just be something else we have to abandon - like the we aren't gonna send our troops to waruntil it's about peacekeeping not fighting policy, until we become another puppet nation, run by the likes of john howard.

don't get me wrong, I like the USA but I also like NZ and I don't want to become like another state.

 

As opposed to you demanding we open up all of our trade to you? We get very little out of a free trade agreement with you,honestly, heck we stand to be hurt badly especially in the wine/farming sectors. A free trade agreement does a lot for you. Allowing our ships into your port does something for us.


Ultimately it is a pride issue. We felt snubbed by you for banning our ships. You will feel a loss of pride if you cave to this concession.

Hardly active though. And no different from any pressure when you ask us for something.

And then you wont be happy with a free trade agreement and you'll want something else. Everyone makes demands, and no one is every satisfied with what they have. Your nation isnt different than mine in that regard.

Why is john howard a puppet? Can you not agree with the US without being a puppet?

When you go to the bargaining table you have to make concessions. Just because you give up something to get something doesnt make you a puppet or 'another state.'

now for a personal rant, sorry. Anti-us phrases are wayyyyyy to prevalent and COMMONLY accepted. If you're our friend, you're a puppet. America isnt the big bad nasty country that so many people want to believe America is. We make mistakes, god we do, but people put an evil motive behind EVERYTHING we do. That is completley unfair and anti-american.

 

lets get away from don brash and his stupid gone-by-lunchtime comment. irrespective of whatever pressure the USA may or may not be putting on nz to get rid of its anti-nuke policy, the idea of getting rid of it is NOT publicly supported - the amount of letters to the editor calling brash a retard in the dom post, the drop in the polls, the hasty shuffling by other national party members and other political parties away from that comment to disassociate themselves from it... it's not a popular idea, free trade agreement or not.

frankly, new zealand is doing some fucked up shit to get those free trade agreements - the one with china (a country with one of the worst human rights records ever) and then the government turns around and condemns mugabe and zimbabwe. Way to be consistent with your beliefs, motherfucker. If you're gonna condemn one oppressive regime and say that more attention needs to be paid to human rights, then they really need to do the same to all oppressive regimes, not just the ones who can't give us anything.

 

Well, 61% of new zealanders want to allow US ships to have access to your ports. I'd say the idea of allowing Nuclear weapons into your country is a truly taboo idea, but the US isn't asking for that.


i thought this was funny though:

"A government report by Justice Somers, commissioned in 1991, found Auckland Hospital emitted twice as much radiation into the environment every day as the entire American naval fleet did ina year."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?a_id=177&ObjectID=10331509

here, here! i wish all western governments would adhere to this. It is sickening that we support governments with horrible human rights records. It is something that we(my nation above any other) needs to look at and question ourselves over.

 

if i had a nuke i know where'd i nuke first

 

Thats because a wallaby chairs New Zealands energy board.


Why would I cheer for a country that doesn't use nuclear power? That just means they burn a lot of gas and coal. Good thing we're dangerously low on sulfur dioxide in the air.

I like New Zealand, but their stance on nuclear energy is dated. Japan and France are ideal producers of energy because they use so much nuclear power, they have very low emmisions, and can reuse most of their nuclear waste product.

Go go atom, go.