In my opinion there are more important things going on in the world than worrying about drug laws ...
Marijuana is not legal in the Netherlands, btw, it's tollerated and controlled, just thought I would clear this up. Even the Dutch are now limiting the THC levels in their own hydroponically grown grass as some of the ''Super Skunk'' strains are way too high. It's ultra close for me, but I'm still not sure if controlling pot in the UK would be a good thing or not, but rest assured, it's not going to happen anytime soon, based on history.
the law heres stupid. they should legalise it, and then they can regulate it and make tax on it. the governments will never ever be able to stop people smoking if they want - they can spend all the money in all the world, its not going to stop it. its wasting police time, money and resources where they could better used elsewhere. it baffles me that alchohol, with all the trouble it causes - illnesses and death, the financial strain on the nhs, the fights every night in town from pissed up twats - is legal, but i'm a criminal for using a plant that nature gave us, and that our brain has special receptors for?! and thats before all the medicinal benefits we already know of ...it should at least be legal for those that need it. a mate of a mate had ms, weed was the only break he got from it. another friend, his mum, can't remember whats up with her, but she can't get about without serious pain, every mothers day he always takes her some weed, and its the only time she can go horse riding. "i, as a responsibe adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what i put into my body, or where i go with my mind. from the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? i choose what may or may not cross that border. here i am the customs agent. i am the coatguard. i am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws i choose to enact within myself are applicable" alexander shulgin
I agree that there are more important things than drugs laws going on in the world, however, the restriction of peoples freedoms only ever leads to unrest. Although it's highly unlikely, myself and almost everybody I know could be imprisoned for dealing (ie passing me a joint at a party). I would say that they would then go to prison to mix with real criminals, but I imagine that most people they meet there will just be there for "dealing". The banning of ANYTHING and subsequent mis-information that always follows is disgraceful. Ok. I take that back, banning things that are only harmful to users is disgraceful. Like the dude said in the quote above.
Ah... well... we could go into the whole issue of misinformation... but misinformation from who?... where does this whole bullshit attitude come from that equates anything that grows in nature is good but anything that is created in a laboratory is bad?... yep, there needs to be an open and honest discussion about the pros and cons of legalising cannibus... and that requires honesty from both sides of the equation... however, let's not kid ourselves by following the line that cannibus is a harmless drug... there is no such thing as a harmless drug... Fly...
Nobody should EVER be criminalised for doing something that affects only them. It's such an enormous waste of police time, prison space, and my god damn taxes! I'm not even that keen on weed, but I am keen on choice. Government's all over the world are taking away civil liberties and basic freedoms every day. With the momentum that has been growing in the Pro-Cannabis movement in the past few years, we might for once just have a chance at clawing a freedom back from them. I personally don't believe it's an opportunity to be missed.
It's the youngsters that seem to screw it all up, imo, when it comes to the legalisation debate. It's even a problem in Amsterdam, causing some proprietors of coffeeshops to close because they try and get in, usually with false ID, get caught or reported and it fucks it up for the rest of us innocent adults who are allowed in.
Nopbody should be criminalised, I agree But does it only affect them? dual diagnosis, psychological problems, ill health, lethargy, loss of memory, paranoia, withdrawal into yourself, lack of self esteem, ill health, breathing difficulties ... all possible problems from long term marijuana usage ... if that happened to someone you loved then that would affect you.
Paul has hit upon an incredibly important point here... Its too easy to say "I can do what I want and take what drugs I want because it does not effect other people" but life is more complicated than that... Any drug has an impact upon the mood and behaviour of any person who takes that substance... depending upon what the substance is, the impact upon mood and behaviour can last last for a long or short perios of time, and the effect can be quite subtle or extreme... You have to recognise the putting substances into your body can have consequences beyond yourself... Fly...
you could apply this same argument to alcohol and numerous other things. the question is - should it be legalised? the answer is yes
Of course ... but by the same argument so should Heroin, Cocaine, Amphetamine and many other controlled substances. However, it is dangerous to assume that there is any such thing as a safe drug.
exactly the " it effects evryone not just yourself" justification for the illegality of substances is foolish... we are expected to drink alcohol in a sensible and mature way.. why can i not smoke weed in a sensible and mature way.. or take pllls or use mushrooms... it is true that if you over indulge it will effect those around you.. but if you over indulge in chocolate and become a fat bastard it effects those around you. i would rather die of lung cancer than a heart attack due to obeisity.
New-studies-seem-to-indicate-that-canabis-is-rather-more-detremental-to-mental-health-than-we'd-maybe-realise... I-agree-it-should-be-legal...internal-freedom-is-important. However,-I-think-people-should-be-more-educated-on-the-possible-psychotic-side-effects-and-the-ways-to-spot-any-on-coming-problems.
And how do you draw the line?... how do you make the distinction between those substances that you consider safe to be legalised and those substances that still need to be controlled?... Fly...
again this is a problem not with the substance but with the user... if you have diabetties dont eat chocolate.. if you have history of mental illness dont take drugs and if you do.. its your gamble. people seem to have this oppinion that drugs are the worst thing for you.. i bet if i spent the money i spend on weed on macdonalds instead i would be in much worse shape than i am. the law should not have to be responsible for people being idiots.. misuse is a problem of the user not the drug.
I don't draw the line ... half the problems with drugs are caused because they are being cut to ribbons and sold by gangsters at ridiculous prices. Take away the criminal element and you'll probably cut the casualty rate .. or at the very least have a greater scope for the treatment of addiction and related problems. It's a tough call really though
