Rupert the Red

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    In media mogul and Zionist Rupert Murdoch's college days at Oxford University - home of the Rhodes Scholarship - he was commonly known as "Rupert the Red" because of his ardent support of the communist ideology. Upon his desk sat a bust of Lenin. In recent years, Murdoch was photographed giving a speech at China's Communist Party School. Murdoch also employs a top TV consultant working to improve China's state-run CCTV, which is an offshoot of the Communist Party in China.

    Let's read more about this great man and true supporter of the communist ideals of peace, equality and, of course, "anti-capitalism."

    "Our reach is unmatched around the world. We're reaching people from the moment they wake up until they fall asleep. We give them their morning weather and traffic reports through our television outlets around the world. We enlighten and entertain them with such newspapers as The New York Post and The Times (of London) as they have breakfast, or take the train to work. We update their stock prices and give them the world's biggest news stories every day through such news channels as Fox or Sky News ... And when they get home in the evening we're there to entertain them with compelling first-run entertainment on FOX or the day's biggest game on our broadcast, satellite and cable networks. Before going to bed, we give them the latest news, and then they crawl into bed with one of our best-selling novels from HarperCollins."
    — Rupert Murdoch, News Corporation, 1999 Annual Report​

    http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=122948

    Apologist for Repressive Regimes

    Rupert Murdoch thinks of himself as a staunch anti-communist. But a look at the record shows that when his own profits are on the line, he is willing to do favors for the most repressive regimes on the planet.

    MURDOCH THE DEFENDER OF REPRESSIVE REGIMES: The last governor of Hong Kong before it was handed back to China, Chris Patten, signed a contract to write his memoirs with Murdoch's publishing company, HarperCollins. But according to the Evening Standard, when "Murdoch heard that the book, East and West, would say unflattering things about the Chinese leadership, with whom he was doing satellite TV business, the contract was cancelled. It caused a furor in the press - except, of course, in the Murdoch papers, which barely mentioned the story." According to BusinessWeek, internal memos surfaced suggesting the canceling of the contract was motivated by "corporate worries about friction with China, where HarperCollins' boss, Rupert Murdoch, has many business interests." [Evening Standard, 8/13/03; BusinessWeek, 9/15/98]

    MURDOCH THE APOLOGIST FOR DICTATORSHIPS: Time Magazine reported that while Murdoch is supposedly "a devout anti-Soviet and anti-communist" he "became bewitched by China in the early '90s." In an effort to persuade Chinese dictators that he would never challenge their behavior, Murdoch "threw the BBC off Star TV" (his satellite network operating in China) after BBC aired reports about Chinese human rights violations. Murdoch argued the BBC "was gratuitously attacking the regime, playing film of the massacre in Tiananmen Square over and over again." In 1998 Chinese President Jiang Zemin praised Murdoch for the "objective" way in which his papers and television covered China. [Source: Time Magazine, 10/25/99]

    MURDOCH THE PROPAGANDIST FOR DICTATORS: While Murdoch justifies his global media empire as a threat to "totalitarian regimes everywhere," according to Time Magazine, Murdoch actually pays the salary of a top TV consultant working to improve the Chinese government's communist state-run television CCTV. As Time notes, "nowadays, News Corp. and CCTV International are partners of sorts," exchanging agreements to air each other's content, even though CCTV is "a key propaganda arm of the Communist Party." [Source: Time Magazine, 7/6/04]

    MURDOCH THE ENABLER OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATORS: According to the LA Times, Murdoch had his son James, now in charge of News Corp.'s China initiative, attack the Falun Gong, the spiritual movement banned by the Chinese government after 10,000 of its followers protested in Tiananmen Square. With Rupert in attendance, James Murdoch called the movement a "dangerous" and "apocalyptic cult" and lambasted the Western press for its negative portrayal of China's awful human rights record. Murdoch "startled even China's supporters with his zealous defense of that government's harsh crackdown on Falun Gong and criticism of Hong Kong democracy supporters." Murdoch also "said Hong Kong democracy advocates should accept the reality of life under a strong-willed 'absolutist' government." It "appeared to some to be a blatant effort to curry favor" with the China's repressive government. [LA Times, 3/23/01]

    MURDOCH THE HIDER OF MONEY IN COMMUNIST CUBA: Despite a U.S. embargo of communist Cuba, the Washington Post reports, "News Corp.'s organizational chart consists of no less than 789 business units incorporated in 52 countries, including Mauritius, Fiji and even Cuba." [Washington Post, 12/7/97]
     
  2. *Ewan*

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    This is the murdoch that owns fox right? Your telling me he's a commie. The man that owns the sun? That makes no logical sense.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Hahaha!

    To you it doesn't make sense, and it probably won't make sense to the other commies in here that have swallowed the big lie as well, believing that Communism equals anti-Capitalism.
     
  4. *Ewan*

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    Eh, i think it does. Have you read the communist manifesto, or a communist confession? Either willl give you a basic overview of communism.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Um, yeah, I've read it all.
     
  6. *Ewan*

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    Then how is communism not anti-capitalist?
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I've been over this dozens of times, to the point where I am starting to sound like a broken record player.

    Again, Communism is nothing more than a scam used to dupe the masses into thinking that everyone can just "share the wealth," when it is in fact the governing Elite that control all the wealth.

    My research, and that of many others, has shown that people like Marx and Engels were really just hired-hands of the banking-elite, used to push the communist ideology. The so-called communist ideology is different from what applied Communism is, and has ever been. Nothing that is evil is sold to the masses as being that way. If it was, people would not accept it.

    Also, the West funded Communism. The West, via Wall Street and the European banking etablishment, funded Lenin and the Bolshevik Revolution. Kind of like they also funded Hitler and the Nazis. But you're not going to hear this in school or read about it in any of the text books they make you read. This is probably why communists support mandatory state-education; a tool of indoctrination and disinformation.

    Communism has been used by the Elite for nearly the past century. It was created as a means to fuel manufactured conflicts, which lead to wars, which lead to a further centralization of power. Meanwhile, Communism is being sold to the ignorant masses as an "alternative" to capitalism. Nothing could be further from the truth. Communism is nothing more than monopoly capitalism, controlled by the Elite and enforced by the state. It was intended to dupe the masses into accepting a system they believed would benefit them, when it was in fact designed to enslave them and transfer all wealth and power to the ruling Elite. Those who believe that a communist society equals a classless society are wrong. What you have is the few and powerful who stand charge over the many and powerless. You cannot have a communist state without oppressive, totalitarian-like control. If not, people would revolt. This is why millions upon millions of people have died because of the oppressive nature of Communism.

    Communism is nothing more than a con game of tyrants.
     
  8. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy

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    To put it succinctly, if capitalism is most of the wealth in the hands of a minority, then communism is all of the wealth in the hands of a tiny minority.
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Very well put.
     
  10. *Ewan*

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    I disagree but then i would. If you look at the paris commune or the russia from 1917 to 1923 the opposite of what jesus was a monkey described happened. I agree thought that the west has used stalinism on several occasions, however explain why the U$ removed allende? Or refused to back the socialists in the spannish civil war?
     
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    in ordinary discourse murdoch's dalliance with the prc elites and his efforts to further his commercial interests in china hardly qualify him as a communist. but then i think what rat's saying is that the two ideologies are, for the puppet masters, quite interchangeable. this begs the question 'who controls the puppet masters?'.
     
  13. james q

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    i would also draw ur attention to comparative economic conditions in the old ussr before and after 1991. be4 the collapse of communism, which we're told is synonymous with market capitalism, social indicators marked the average life expectancy of a russian male at about 76 years old. in 1997 the average life expectancy was now only 48 years, a drop of some 40%. this occured with the collapse of the new american-run capitalist economy that in effect burnt and pillaged the entire old soviet economy and ended up causing all savings deposits and salaries to vanish through embezzlement. in the old soviet economy everyone had a guaranteed job, a flat in public housing, and a pension when they got old. none of these things exist in capitalist russia today. how are the two economies and societies comparable?
     
  14. taxrefund90

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    i wasnt saying yes to pressed_rat, i was just saying yes for the fun of it. you should try it, too.
     
  15. james q

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    hahahah, no.
     
  16. taxrefund90

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    hey, asshole just say it. jk

    yes, yes, yes, yes.
     
  17. jim_w

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    Rat, you've said these exact same things elsewhere, and I called you then. Here goes again:

    To say that "Communism isn't really anti-capitalist - it's just a tool of the Illuminati" is idiotic. A lot of people have used the excuse of communism to justify dictatorship, but to use that to justify using the word "communist" to mean something totally different to what everyone else means by it is just moronic. You're talking about "totallitarianism" or "despotism" or something.

    Look, I can do it too:

    "Anyone who thinks that conspiracies are real is a fool. Conspiracies aren't really formed from groups of people plotting together - actually, a conspiracy is a type of fish. So, anyone who says that a conspiracy had something to do with politics is a fool, because fish don't get involved in politics"
     
  18. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Don't know where you got that number; the current life expectancy is 67.

    In no sense has Russia ever had an "American-run" capitalist economy. In fact state ownership of industry during the post-communist era remained very high.
    Forced labour is another way of saying guaranteed job.
    So long as you, your wife and your children don't mind sharing a shoddy two bed flat with your parents and grandparents.
    Kind of like now.
     
  19. james q

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    the american ncbi writes:
    "Age-adjusted mortality in Russia rose by almost 33% between 1990 and 1994. During that period, life expectancy for Russian men and women declined dramatically from 63.8 and 74.4 years to 57.7 and 71.2 years, respectively"
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9508159&dopt=Abstract
    and that's 11 years ago. it's got much worse since then and would have 2 be lower than the 57 cited here. still looking. where did u get ur figures?

    in every sense it did i'm afraid love. there's even has been a congressional hearing into the question, run by republicans, who blame clinton and gore 4 the wreckage. i've seen estimates that say $200 billion was looted by american banks and laundered in the us. harvard university and james rubin handled it. here's a nice right wing site 4 u that summarises the situation and the resultant litigation: http://www.economicprincipals.com/issues/05.05.29.html

    yeah, ther'es prob'ly some truth in that. when i went there in 1988 most ppl complained of being bored in their job rather than having a gun 2 their heads to do it, now they are screaming to just have a job, any job.

    it's much worse now. as i said earlier there was not much homelessness during the soviet union (and i'm talking about the big cities here) but there is now. it's terrible 4 them.
     
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    point break: re russian life expectancy, it seems that there are no reliable figures, none that i can find, since 1994. they've stopped measuring it apparently. so i'd better correct what i said here about it being 48 and say that this is wrong and that a more reliable figure would be 57.
     

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