Maori Peoples of New Zealand like to play golf

I read something that the natives in New Zealand like to play golf and one of their tribal guys even beat Tiger Woods to be the best in the world.

 

*blank look*

...Riiiii-iiiii-iiiiii-iiiight?

How does one reply to this sort of thing guys? I don't know where to begin!

 

begin at the beginning

i heard the one tribal guy who is really good does a maoris war dance before he plays golf

also, do you feel the accomplishments of the maoris in golf surpass edmund hillary's climbing of mt. everest?

 

Who cares! He was from New Zealand! (and chickey, his name is Michael Campbell)

Yer im proud that a maori won the US open of course, being a maori myself.
But those two accomplishments really have nothing to do with eachother at all.

 

On behalf of my kiwi cousins, i think that story is ridiculous. No offence, but i can't really see maoris playing golf in plus fours.


Along with that, the maori people along with the Aboriginal people aren't really called "the natives". They are our indiginous Australians and New Zealanders

 

yeah, you don't want to go around calling people 'natives' or 'tribal guys'- ugh, that's pretty offensive, mate.

yes michael cambell won the US open, but that just means that he is good at golf right?
as for the 'maoris war dance' you speak of. um yeah, it's called the haka. call it that if you want to to avoid offence, eh.

 

indigenous is pretty offensive too...proper names are usually best.

 

Why is indidenous offensive? It just means that Aboriginals and Maori's aren't caucasian, which they aren't. They say it themselves. They are proud to call themselves indidenous Aussies and Kiwis

 

this person is dumb.

Michael Campbell may be maori and have grown up in titahi bay in porirua (near where i live w00p w00p) but so what? he's a kiwi, an nz rep and whether he does or does not do the haka before competing (which I don't think he does) it's really not relevant if he's a good golfer.

 

ditto... i was just using references that are used in my country. the indigenous peoples here often refer to each other as being a member of such or such tribe or nation. (btw, it is my understanding that the maoris do not have nation status... which may not be any worse in the americas where they do have nation status but treaties made have not been honored)

anyways, sorry for the inadvertent disrespect to the maoris peoples

I disagree that there is no relation between Michael Campbell being a maoris and a great golfer. From the little bit I heard of him, he's an intensely spiritual person of the maoris traditions of which he feels deeply connected (yes, I know he's a mixed blood) and he gives honor and voice to the people and culture that has for so long been disenfranchised by the europeon colonialists who took their lands and tried to deny their cultural and spiritual expressions.

Praises to Michael Campbell the golfer. Praises to Michael Campbell the gentleman. Praises to Michael Campbell the maoris.

And yes, he has done the Haka before competing. At the President's Cup, he did the Haka dance.

 

it's obvious that you are trying to be nice, but man, you really have to watch what you say, eh.
like it's not the 'haka dance'. it's just the haka.
i dunno, that sort of protocol is taken quite seriously over here - 'the haka dance'....he's not a performing seal.

 

The Maori came in like 900 AD...indigenous means always there. Maori are no more indigenous than your british/scotch/pickanAsiancountry immigrant.

a personal peeve perhaps..as we are supposed to call american indians 'native americans.' When they were not native...they just came here from africa like everyone else. 'native, indigenous' whatever infers that they are MORE kiwi, aussie, or american. They arent.

 

There is no connection with Michael Campbell being a maori and a golfer. He would play golf if he was caucasian i would think. He is a New Zealander with maori blood, he happens to play golf.



Anyway......................................Did you see Greg Norman playing the "senior" golf British Open? How weird is that?

 

the maori. no s.

the maori people. a maori person. a maori. for no reason should there be an s after the word maori unless it is preceded by an apostrophe ie the maori's case for sovreignty is pretty good.

edit: even that 's looks dumb. no s's. none at all.

argh.

also. its not a haka dance. it's just the haka. thats it.

 

I only used an "s" after an apostrophe didn't i?


It's funny how many yanks say "the haka dance" They think it's a novelty, something funny. I know i'm not a Kiwi, but god i hate that. It's a tradition and should be respected, we always do whe we are opposite the All Blacks for example.

 

I really doubt that they mean to offend anyone in anyway. I really doubt that they know how much reverance is shown towards the haka, so i think it is a bit unfair to treat them with contempt. Americans take things like that very seriously; our national anthem is a good example.


Also, please becareful with stereotyping. Rugby means less than soccer to us(thats to say...not at all). Most americans would never have encountered the Haka anywhere, let alone been told to treat it with respect, as you and other people have. It is best just to say "look dude, its like your anthem...when it is performed, you stand up and shutup."

 

haka dance *cringe*.
YES, Michael Campbell is of maori decent, he is a golfer and he maybe a gentleman indeed but most of all, hes just a person like everyone else. Your acting like he escaped from the circus...
No "s" in the maori language either.

Man NZers are so ...um wats the word, politically correct?

 

I didn't mean to act in contempt. I was simply refering to the Americans i encounter at uni and their opinions that the haka is a sissy dance. I told them that it isn't.

 

if spelling of correctly of the Maori is so important, then I suggest you change the category for this forum

"New Zealand
Land of the Kiwis, Maoris & Tree Ferns."

as an "s" has been added to Maori. How am I supposed to know an "s" is not supposed to be added to Maori when its done in the forum header?

No, I am not acting like he escaped from the circus. I think he's a beautiful person who in a world where so many forces seek to fragment one, he's gone within and found his spiritual truth and destiny and with great integrity and courage, he lives that truth for all the world to see him dance The Haka.

 

Ah silver ferns?