overpopulation

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by Acorn, May 26, 2005.

  1. jivre

    jivre Member

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    I vote NO!!!! (and I study in environmental sciences)

    One unated-statian is more dangerous than 3000 african for the earth. I'm sorry for all united-statians who have a carefully life-style.

    But there are no Over-population.

    But there are lots of troubles in Over-Consummation!

    That's makes the earth sick....
     
  2. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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  3. green_revolution

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    Over population is definitly becoming a problem. I know ever1 dreams of having the perfect family of 2 kids and everything but we've got to face facts.
    In Sweden I heard that the population was falling since ppl are having less kids later in life.
    So anyway, I encourage everyone to have only 1 kid. And if thats not enough than do it the Angelina Jolie way and adopt a kid from some 3rd world country.
     
  4. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    We could level all the wastelands which breed terrorists in the world, and that would make things work out nicely. Then, we could have the first world continue its declining birth rate and eventually mellow out our footprint on this planet.
     
  5. EdwardJ

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    I think we'll all be gone before overpopulation becomes a problem to tell you the truth. I think HE will have come by then.
     
  6. PurpleGel

    PurpleGel Senior Member

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    the problem are the people who think overpopulation is not a problem.

    just because there is physical land to harbor more bodies, does NOT mean that the land should be used in that way. we're quickly destroying the earth with the current number of people. every day the problem gets worse.

    personally, i pray for mother nature to intervene and send us a plague we can't defeat.
     
  7. Jedi

    Jedi Self Banned

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    Personally I think that the world is able to sustain far more people than 6 billion. The overcrowding is a problem because some people have too much and others have too little.
     
  8. EdwardJ

    EdwardJ Member

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    Well you are welcome to think that if you will. It doesn't bother me one bit. You may call me a quack all you want, in fact I welcome you to do so. But do let me clear a few things up for you.

    When you speak of manifest destiny, the theory that white christian Americans should have the right to go wherever they want to go and take whatever land they want to is found not in scripture, but in, and only in, the minds of men, which are of course not always correct. So don't put me in the same class as those christians (if they may be called that, I'm not even sure) who bought into the erroneous theory that christians can do whatever they please. The God I worship doesn't allow me to do that, maybe the God they worshipped did.

    You can stereotype all you want by saying "well, look at the wrong these people have done who call themselves christians, this means that all christians are wrong!" But that would be faulty logic now, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that "this group of people who called themselves christians made some mistakes and were foolish in what they did"? I suppose that wouldn't suit your rhetoric, though, so you continue to stereotype in order to pass along your doctrine.

    I'm also not exactly sure what "DISHONORING THE CONTRIBUTION THAT REVOLUTIONARY MADE TO HOMO SAPIENS, AND HAS BEEN PAYING FOR EVERY SINCE BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU" means. Please explain. What contribution has been made for humans and what/who contributed it? I don't understand.

    Thank you for taking the time to read what I have wrote here. Whether or not you wish to go on and insult me or my beliefs is completely up to you and I hope you enjoy the decision you make whatever it may be.

    Good day,
    EdwardJ
     
  9. EdwardJ

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    To those who believe overpopulation will be a problem, what do you recommend we do? Take away the natural right to bear children? Take away others right to live by starting to kill off our population? What viable solution do you offer?

    The fact is, even if there is or will be a problem (which I have strong doubt of) I'll take the disease over the cure. There's no way I'd support murder to eliminate overpopulation. There's no way I'd support abolishing the right to bear children. I say anyone who supports these methods could help cure the problem by taking their own lives.
     
  10. honeyhannah

    honeyhannah herbuhslovuh

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    I think there are many answers to this question, I think it would be a good idea if everyone started having 10 kids per couple, if this was so the world would be forced to react and change for the better. Such a contrast to our comfort will surely make the arrogant and ignorant 'leaders' of the world straighten up. Another thing that I would say is that if this were to happen it is not going to happen for another 50 years or so, we need to breed the generation of people who are going to combat the problem and be extra cautious of being aware of yourself and the world so that your kids will be the same way and eventually put the state of the world back into the right hands.
     
  11. EdwardJ

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    Then what? All increasing the population and making us uncomfortable will do is push the problem to another person. You haven't offered a real solution. How do we deal with the population problem? Someone's going to have to go! Be it the future children or the already existing people. Are either of those solutions something you want? I'd much rather live in an overpopulated world than one that places restrictions on population by murder or childbirth restrictions.

    ADDITION:
    I think if there is to be a problem, the solution needs to come from parents making the decision themselves of whether they want to populate the world more. That's where the solution should come. Not from some ignorant arrogant leader, not from other people, but from the parents of the children. I think when people see how overpopulated the world is they will say "maybe I only want one child or two, no need to overdue the burden". People who care for the environment recycle, people who worry about overpopulation will have two kids or less. I think the problem (if there ever were one) needs to take care of itself.
     
  12. EdwardJ

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    I'm having an alright time, thank you. Explain why I am "FULL OF SHIT" though. I'm not really sure what you mean. All I have been doing, like you, has been expressing my opinion. I believe I've made some refutable points, but nobody seems to want to refute them. You call me "FULL OF SHIT" for this, which I just do not understand.

    -EdwardJ
     
  13. John221

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    "More than five billion people in the world is too many. Morally, it is a mistake because it aggravates the distortion between rich and poor countries. And on a practical level, it is a disaster. We could ensure that everyone has enough to eat if we mitigated the power of commercial interests, which is not so simple to do. But it is far less certain that we could ensure that everyone has enough to drink..."

    - His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
     
  14. jypsymoth3

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    i believe if technology and media had gone in a more earth friendly direction, then possibly overpopulation would not be a proboblem. but given it's people first enviroment last situation, it is. If people were more concernd with making life simple and making less of an impact on the enviroment instead of making money and saving time it wouldn't be a question. think about it, if we put as much thought and energy into using less resourses and reusing what we can instead of how to make the smallest cell phone and the safer silicon for plastic surgery, this world would be a great place to live. there are a lot of great minds out their and we are wasting them.
     
  15. Rafaela

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    over population is the basis for political corruption, the deminishment of a true democracy, and the environment.
     
  16. stranger

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    hmm, thats true, and i really like the dalai llama quote. maybe homosexuality is an evolution trait were developing... and aids was created to help with this? or wasnt aids created by the US government? idk, no way to be sure i guess.
     
  17. PurpleGel

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    the solution to overpopulation is clear and simple:

    tax the *FUCK* out of anyone who has over two children.


    that would work well for modern countries but not so well for the third world or places where taxes don't exist. but hey, we can start here at home--in america.
     
  18. EdwardJ

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    Frankly, I think that's stupid. Is childbirth not a natural right just like life, liberty, and property? If not, explain.
     
  19. PurpleGel

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    sometimes natural "rights" have to be waived in the light of the greater good; it is NOT our natural right to continue raping the Earth.
     
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