Michael Moore admits his hypocracy!

In an interview with Moore he admits to being a hypocate. He says he is no better than Marilyn Manson for coming down on him for using controversy to sell his material. He also claims to be a hypocrate for coming down on Bush's relation with Saudi's for oil deals when he uses mass amounts of fuel flying around the country on a private jet.

I don't like Moore I think he is a snake but I give him respect for admitting this.

 

One can hardly compare any hypocrisy of Moore's to that of Bush's. Moore doesn't occupy the most powerful office nor use it to further the interests of his corporate buddies and Saudi business partners (especially in the aftermath of an as yet still not thoroughly and publically investigated act of monumental violence against two urban centers).

Big difference between that level of duplicitous abuse of power and some personal extravagances shared by millions of other Americans.

Sure he, like every other American, could do with some increased conservation-mindedness and significant cutback on the frivolous over consumption (pun in tended) but the Constitution holds our President to a much higher standard of integrity and tis the President, not his critics who makes a solemn VOW to uphold the constitution and discharge his office faithfully (a faith that this president has betrayed through secrecy, refusal to account, lies, authoritarian legislation, bitter partisanship and flagrant war of aggression). Clearly presidential and congressional hypocrisy and duplicity directly impinge upon the fate of the entire nation, Moore's does not.

The height of self assured beligerence from the Bush-Cheney team has easily surpassed that of the Nixon White House, and the hypocrisies which have arisen out of this ethos are splitting the nation and seeing our sons and daughters sacrificed at the altar of elitest powermongering.

Youll never hear Dubyah, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld or any other key member of the ruling cabal admitting any duplicity on their part.

 

Michael Moore may be a snake, but i'm personally glad the democrats have an asshole for once. Republicans have several assholes (rush limbaugh to name one) and Michael Moore is just the Left side's answer to Rush. And if you admit you're a hypocrite, doesnt that pretty much cancel out any hypocricies? You cant be much of a hypocrite if you're willing to admit that you are one.

Michael Moore's methods may not be the best, he tells a lot of half truths, he's too in your face, he has a knack for twisting facts around to suit his views, but in the overall picture he always makes a valid point. Sometimes you've got to ignore the smaller things Moore does and focus on what he's really trying to say.

 

I saw Jabba the Moore on The Daily Show with John Stewart last night, and he admitted that his movies are biased and that they only show his point of view, BUT then went on to say that the facts contained in the films are 100% irrefutable evidence. WHAT!!?? If he's admittedly trying to put across his extreme liberal viewpoint in the form of a biased documentary, then how the hell are we expected to take his [admittedly] wighted and inflated statistics and sources seriously enough to allow him to prove his point? Moore is such a hypocrite he's even hypocritical while addmitting to be hypocritical.

I also thought it was interesting when he said that all Americans are responsible for the problem in the middle East because we're such over-consumers of oil. I guess he's hoping that none of the viewers realize that he consumes more oil (and more of everything) than any two or three of us put together. And he's telling us that it's our fault for the war? I guess he's one of those "Do as I say, not as I do" assholes.

 

max...


you have an asshole filled with enough harmful bacteria to kill multiple people.
your shit stinks up a storm. you often leave streak marks on the bowl after flushing, and sometimes miss the toilet when pissing. you have made MANY irresponsible decisions in your life, some of which you regret but some you'll never even know were mistakes. you've farted hundreds if not thousands of times in your life, often in the presence of other people.


now that is an example of how someone can say something compleltey one sided (note im leaving out the good things you've done in life) and yet everything is say is compeltley true

jsut because moore only shows half the story doesnt mean his half of the story is completly fabricated...understand what im geting at?

 

Also I beleive the point made where Moore says he was a hypocrit because he "uses mass amounts of fuel flying around the country on a private jet." is purely ironic, a point made as a humorous reflection between his hypocrisy of flying around and the hypocrisy of the government being there to protect the people when in actual fact it dangled hundreds of thousands in harms way.

 

No his facts are still bullshit, but it's easier to insult Moore for being the fat, hypocritical, nonpartisan, moronic fuck that he is. But if you want to talk about his facts, watch Bowling for Columbine and tell me if you see any sources cited for any of his statistics. There are none (or few). If someone on the forrum said 50,000 of <insert group of people> were killed by <insert group of other people> without posting a link, we would pass him off as a dumbass for pulling statistics out of his ass, which he would be. But that is exactly what the movie is full of. When Michael Moore does the same thing and calls it a documentary, people will accept his statistics without question. I fail to see the difference between that and accepting what Bush says without question (which, as your sig states, is a bad idea).

added: Oh yeah, and if you think what Michael Moore has to say is any closer to the truth than what Bill O'Reilley has to say, you're shitting yourself.

 

When did I say any of that? I didn't, but you think I'm a Bush lover becuase I disagree with your far left opinion? Let me set this straight: I hate Bush. He put my country into an unrealistic debt, mismanaged a war, and lost any respect that America had within the international community. I won't deny any of the things that you posted, although it should be noted that the bin Laden family disowned Osama long ago, so any attempt to draw a connection between Bush and Osama is killed right there.

Yes, Moore makes a few good points in his films and books. But those truths are encased and surrounded in bullshit spin and half-truth, so much so that you have to dig and search in order to decipher what is true from what isn't. He might reiterate some "obvious facts" over and over again, but for every obvious fact there are a dozen unfounded attacks or remarks. If Moore only exists to "counter" the far right conservatives, then you couls also say that the conservatives exist to "counter" the people like Moore.

Here's a site for anyone who liked Bowling for Columbine

 

And thats exactly why the President needs to be censured(not censored. haha) and impeaced.

Micheal Moore's point I think is that removing these oil execs/warhawks from power would go a long way towards making the world a safer place.

And then we should take the power of the corporate CEO's; in those cases, the corporations backing Bush themselves must be dissolved or otherwise rendered incapable of causing further harm. I guess I'm hoping too much.

Anyways listen, just go see the movie even if you don't agree with Moore. You'll learn something about our history with Saudi Arabia and get a good inside look at world politics. Trust me it won't be boring. Peace

 

Why does every fucking topic spin into a "Bush did this" argument? The only reason I started this thread was to support what a fucking spineless disgusting fat ugly lying rude, did I mention disgusting, piece of shit Michael Moore is.

 

If you lived here you would understand man. trust me.

 

Niraj you need ta calm down and relax..People that I know today, that has went out and actually saw the MOVIE..even critics who were skeptical say..GO WATCH IT! so I think before you can critize him, watch the movie, he put it out there for people to stop and think ..and on this thread i see a bunch of bullshit about "oh he's fat and disgusting" use your head and actually show why your opinion is this way or that way..not "i dont like him cause he's fat" because from what I have saw this thread is nothing but pure opinionated bs..well from people attacking him..about time someone grew some balls and tried to make people stop and think..you sound like one of Bushs friends actually, hmm, there's a thought!

 

I've seen his movies and read a few of his books, and from what I gather this one isn't too different from the others. I don't hate him because he's fat or disgusting (he is both), I hate him because he's a one sided, loud, obnoxious dipshit who puts his extreme politcal opinion out as fact, and dosen't even bother to cite sources or reliable statistics to back up his hypocritical claims. And then people try to defend him by saying "well, he's better than Bush and conservatives LOL!" So the fuck what? Is being better than O'Reilley or Limbaugh (which he isn't, I put them all on the same level) anything to be proud of? His movies are "pure opinionated bs," he even admits it himself. He attacks those who are opposed to his politocal views and edits/photoshops the fuck out of his films (hell, Charleton Heston's tie and hairdo changed in midspeech during Bowling for Columbine) to make it look like he comes out on top. Moore's movies should make you think, you should be thinking about how biased and one sided what you're watching is.

 

See, Michael Moore admitting that he is biased and there are certain hypocracies in what he does in my opinion only makes him more honest and real.

Bush would never go so far to be a critic of himself in any way what so ever because we all know that the reason that he is doing the things he does and his is in power to do such things is because GOD WANTED HIM TO.

 

MaxPower..what i am saying is people (not you in general) are not backing up anything they say..they just come out with 'he's fat and disgusting' i will go see it..so therefore i can make my own mind up without people making my mind up for me..Also, in all articles that I have found, they say this movie isn't anything like his original movies..I want to see it, if for nothing else, entertainment and to think for myself..rather it be agreeing with Michael Moore or not..Just sick of seeing it all being bashed before anyone has even VIEWED it!

 

So by those standards, a murderer who admits that killing 20 people was a bad idea is better than a murderer who thinks that killing 20 people was a good idea? No, they're both equally wrong because they both commited the same crime (not that Bush and Moore commmited the same crime, but that's not my point).

And no politician in history, democrat or republican, has criticized himself. It's bad politics. It's got nothing to do with ego or a "mission," it's just something that they don't do.

 

This is rather silly to argue over since the argument never goes anywhere. Yes, Michael Moore is biased. But I don't think there's anyone who takes 100% of what he says without question, unless they're not all that bright to begin with. But, it's also entertainment, too. A movie like this wouldn't be seen by as many people if it wasn't edited in a way to appear somewhat sensational. You're supposed to watch a movie like this and form your own opinion, not blindly buy into everything Moore presents as fact.

I think it's silly that people are getting all up in arms over this. The right-wing is really making themselves look bad by trying to censor this film. That's far more un-American than the right is accusing Moore of being.

I personally could not care less for Moore as a person, but I do plan on seeing this movie sometime this weekend, and am looking forward to doing so. Even if you don't agree with Moore, at least see it for the footage alone.

 

I would definitely go see this movie if Michael Moore wasn't in it. He is fat and disgusting.