Help? My friend was on a bad trip?

Well I'll start off saying that I need help with what happened to my friend(and sorry this is so long). Ive never tried pot so I dont really know the effects well thats why I decided to come here for help. My friends got some "really good quality" weed and smoked it. Earlier they were joking and saying how it was so sweet that it might be laced with something? Now my friend has told us that he has a lung problem something about his lungs is shrivled... not really sure. But anyways after they smoked this stuff he said coughed up some blood. He then went and laid on the couch. After a couple of minutes I decided to check on him, because hes told me earlier that hes had a really bad trip with the same weed. (he said he smoked ALOT and went to another dimension for 10 years... I wasnt there so i cant tell much about this) When I check on him on the couch he looks unconscious and his upper body is jerking and twitching violently. We tried to talk him out of it, but he could barely talk back to us. Eventually he got better, and the rest of the night was uneventful. He says he doesnt even remember what happened. Well ive never heard of weeds effects doing this especially the other dimension. Thats mostly with disassociatve pyschadelics right? So I'm wondering if any of you could shed some light on this? Do you think its laced, is he super sensitive because of his lungs, is it just quality? He might even be lying he has a tendency to lie alot. I'm just worried for him because he doesnt even seem to care at all. He even told us not to care or try to help him...

 

I think it's obvious that marijuana does NOT do this to normal individuals.

Questions:
1. You mentioned he coughed up blood--does he take any drugs other than marijuana via inhalation?
2. Does he take any other drugs at all? (Legal or illegal, including prescription meds).
3. Did anyone else who smoked the same marijuana react like your friend?
4. You mentioned he has a "shriveled lung". So is that from another cause other than smoking? Can you describe this condition further?

The twitching part is particularly troubling. He may have been having an anxiety attack or a manifestation of some other neurological disorder. It could also have been a mild seizure (which is very bad).

Underlying mental disorders are often brought about through the use of drugs in susceptible individuals, and this could be one of those cases. He needs to monitor himself (or if he is incapable of this, be monitored by a friend) for any other adverse symptoms.

For coughing up blood, he needs to see a doctor. Coughing up blood is very serious, and he should seek medical attention.

Marijuana is very RARELY laced with anything else. I've heard of very FEW real cases involving laced marijuana. If he really wants to know if it was laced or not, he should get an extended drug test at a hospital to see (ASAP before they leave his system).
This could help determine whether the problem is the result of another drug, or if it was of neurological origin.

I strongly recommend you tell him the following:
* He needs to see a doctor for the lung problem.
* He should NOT smoke when he knows he has lung problems.
* He needs to take an extended drug test at a hospital (the doctors should not ask why, but if they do, just say he thinks something was slipped in his drink at a party or whatever. Usually they don't ask, and it's totally confidential. They're not out to get you).

This might simply be one individual's idiosyncratic reaction to marijuana. Some people react very strangely to certain drugs.

However, this situation could be very serious, so take it seriously.

 

you should hav given him some milk dumbass

 

I am not a doctor, but I think he may have had a seizure. He should tell his doctor about what happened because it could be serious.

 

I dont see how thats possible with plain weed, it could have been laced, with a large amount of pcp because that shit is craaaaaazzzzy, I had laced once but it didnt mess me up to bad,

 

Well, one of my friends is on some different meds for depression and whatever else. When he used to get really really stoned he would lie down and just kinda twitch and shit off in his own little reality. One time he thought he was in a video game. I think alot of the twitching was brought on by some meds because he has had a problem with being overly jumpy since he started his anti-depressants. If your friend is on any kind of medication, that could be contributing to it. As far as coughing blood, if it happens consistantly then definitely see a doctor. If that shit was laced and his twitching was more than just a goofy high then I'd definitely advise a trip to the doctors.

 

haha yea nature, its a nice suprise sometimes!

 

eh, its happened 2 me. haha. well it did like the first time i got truly stoned. and it still does happen sometimes. i think it depends on what enviroment yer in and all and what yer mindset is like at the time. eh, hes fine. however, i duno bout that coughing up the blood crap..that doesnt sound to ...healthy. does he smoke alot? cuz if he does, then i guess that would be bound 2 happen. some of my friends started coughing and one said she coughed up blood once. so she jus took a break from smoking. like i was coughing for like a month straight and i still kinda am now but i took a week break and it went down. and about the twitching..thats normal. sometime if im really stoned, im jus like out of reality, twitching and crap. so my uh..'diagnose' would be is just that he was reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy stoned. but then again, im no doc. i mean sometimes if im stoned off my ass i cant really talk or like function at all. haha.

 

We've all been there.

 

TAKE HIM TO THE DOCTER!!!

even if it really isnt serious, the docter wont turn you in or anything.

if it IS something serious, then, there you go, diagnosed as early as possible, if it isnt serious, then, you have it off your chest.

better safe than sorry.

 

About what happend to ure friend... duhh.. take him to the doctor, if u dont, you are a very stupid individual.

I hate when people say "Trip on weed"... you CANT TRIP ON WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So stop saying it!

 

I find the whole trip thing irritating, as well... The second time I really smoked, I think I may have gone into some kind of trip, but we found out it was laced... It still wasn't that bad.

I like mixing it with salvia, now.

 

i guess my dad was growing salvia... not to smoke though, we have a datrua plant, and he's like sometimes it just helps having it around"... my dad is waaaaaaaaaaaaay to paranoid to try anything like that.. he'll think he got spun and instantly go into a bad trip with the salvia, and he read carlos casteneada books, and so he ph33rs the datura.

 

well i guess everyone could get into a lil 'discussion' about weither or not u can 'trip' on weed...but i mean fuck, it effects some people differently. so if u dont, then how do you know that it doesnt effect anyone else different? well, i dont know how long uve been smoking but, i beileve that u can with the right kinda weed, enviroment,mindset and so on. i mean, its not like lsd or anything, but i think weed would be under the 'psychedelic' drugs. weed def. does SOMETHING, its not jus like smoking tabacco. but like i said, its different for everyone. wel jus my stating my opinon so..dont get all crazy on me, uh everyone shud be entitled 2 their opinon here without getting smashed on. sooo if thats what ya think, then, right on.

 

yeah, but everyone knows what it's like to be toooooo high... like, where you dont want to move, or where you WANT to but cant... kinda feel sick, and just want to lay there with your eyes closes, you still cant fall asleep... but when you finally DO pass out, when you wake up 5 hours later, and you're still stoned, you can usually turn the situation around and enjoy the rest of your buzz...

WOO!!! PICKING UP MY STUFF IN LESS THAN 12 hours!!!

 

you dont trip on weed so he wasent smoking no weed

 

i dont think anyone said he was tripping. it was most likely some kind of anxiety/panic attack. its happened to me once where I was convinced the stuff was laced and I was going to die...my friends who smoked the same stuff were fine, i just ripped the four footer WAY too hard. It's also happened on another occassion to a friend of mine who started twitching real bad and was freaking out about problems with his muscles. In both instances, we were convinced we needed to go the ER, but in both cases we were talked out of it by experienced people, in my friends case, that was me. In that state, its better just to ride it out, go to your most comfortable place, have people remind you it will pass and its just the drug, you can't OD on marijuana, etc.

coughing up blood sounds like a health problem...

 

if your friend has lung problems, he shouldnt be smoking weed.

a friend of my cousins blacked out for like an hour once from smoking weed. He also has some sort of lung problem

 

godammit this has been adressed so many times, you cant say you cant trip off weed unless you define 'trip' in a way that suggests that. 'trip' means an experience to another place. a drug induced trip refers to the fact that you seem to go to other environments while not actually leaving the room, or whatever situation youre in.
cannabis can make you percieve your environment in a completely differetn way to what it is. you can be totally disorientated and not know where you are. it depends on the person. ive had an actual hallucination after smoking weed, and i occurred the NEXT DAY! when i wasnt that stoned. weed can pretty much emulate all other drugs, just not to teh same levels as most of them. it can make you feel less, feel more, be mroe coordinated, be uncoordinated, be stimulated, be depressed, stop you from sleeping, make you pass out, make you feel dissasociated, make you percieve your world in a way that is different to being sober, make you percieve things for something that theyre not, see things that are not there, induce intense thought or numb your brain to not being able to think much at all. just because youve not felt all of these doesnt mean that other people have. i have felt all of these, but some only once or twice. just because its not the same sort of trip as acid doesnt mean its not a type of 'trip' in the way it is used in language.

so shuttuppppppp about the whole trip thing, its subjective to the person, the intensity of some feeling.

 

amen! its not like smoking weed does nothing, or else why wud ya smoke it?