thoughts on communism

Except for the fact the clothes on your backs, were probably made in a sweet shop, the gas for your car, probably came from a ruthless brutal puppet goverment controled by the international bourgeoisie, stealing the labour from the poor workers. Fuck the borgeoisie, Africa is piss poor because of them, I don't care how special you think the rich are, the poor are starving death just so the bourgeoisie can sit on their fat ass, it is the workers of the world that is the true creators of wealth, why the fuck should workers share wealth with lazy rich fucks? Capitalism is welfare for the rich, fuck the rich, their wealth just shows how much they fucked over the masses, the rich should get off their fat lazy ass and get real jobs, instead of stealing wealth from the working class.

 

I said probably, so I was wrong

No, I don't want to support lazy fat cats

So why do you think we should support rich fucks? That do nothing but own the means of production, contributing nothing to society? At least a bum doesnt' expect to live in a fucking mansion for being a leach on society.

News flash, true communist (not those trotskyist fuckers but true followers of Marx and Engles) have no intrest in your wealth and are just intresting in the liberation of the means of wealth creation. Second the point of communism is to bring ALL power to the people, this was made perfectly cear by Engles, that true communism can only exist in a democracy of the workers.

 

True communism on a large scale has never existed on this planet, since the key requirment put there by Marx and Engles is complete and total authority by the workers.

As for your view that owners do work, just look at Wal-Mart, all their profit is due to underpaying labour, infact all owners are just riding on the coat tails of workers, leaders are for sheep, the economy would work far better if we had democratically controlled industries.

Have you even read Marx and Engles? "dictatorship of the proletariat" comes from the definition of democracy at the time "dictatorship of the people", meaning absolute control by the people, Marx changes this the slightest, to absolute control by the workers. Engles comments on the Paris commune, confirms that communism is not communist without the democracy.

 

screw communism.
no state.
no money.
freedom and property for all.

 

My question to you is, Have YOU ever read ENGELS? Just wondering, 'cause you keep misspelling his name. I hate to be an a-hole who picks on spelling, but you consistently misspell his name so it obviously isn't a typo. I would expect someone who has read his work would at least spell his name right. Or is that the way they spell it on whatever BS propaganda site you get all your information from? Like how communists and anarchists are really the same?

 

Yes

So I repeatedly made a minor spelling mistake on his name, the spelling of Engels name is probably the most insignifigant part of his writing, thus I don't see why you would expect everyone who reads his work to pay close attention to it.

 

Yeh, people whocriticize communism usually don't even no what we want to do. This is the work on the western media delibratley mis-inofrming people.

 

You cannot ahve a communist country, it's a state of being in which there is no state. You couldhave a socialist country however, and vneezuela is making great progress towards socialism at the moment.

 

Communism and tyranny are two words that are synonymous with each other.

 

Marx and Engels were both frauds hired by the central bankers to create a false opposition to capitalism. This is something the stupid commies don't understand because they don't know their history, and the history books don't talk about it.

The fact of the matter is that communism, like capitalism, was created by the central banks as a way to consolidate power into the hands of a powerful few. It was then sold to the gullible masses by scumbags like Karl Marx, presented as something that was of benefit to the common man, complete with love, peace and equality.

The corporate-elite LOVE communism, because it takes wealth away from the common man and places it into the hands of the rich and powerful. It's called the consolidation of power, and that is exactly what communism is. Communism is tyranny and is responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of people.

People who love freedom do not support communism.

 

took the words outta my mouth, pr

 

The corporate-elite LOVE communism, because it takes wealth away from the common man and places it into the hands of the rich and powerful. It's called the consolidation of power, and that is exactly what communism is. Communism is tyranny and is responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of people.

i can jsut see coke and wallmart marching under a red flag right now. And isn't that blatant ageism? Just because im younger i obviously no nothing.

 

as history shows, communism hasn't worked very well. i am no economic genius, but it seems like communism has always failed because despots were selected to lead the communist country, only ending up treating the poor worse. it could have probably had a better reputation had the earliest communist regimes like stalin and mao not oppresed their people. like i said, im no genius, but is seems like it has been given a bad light

 

communism also is not as free as people make it seem. they don't have basic freedoms like freedom of speech and press.

people also end up becoming lazy because they will eventually get the same amount of money as everyone else

 

The owners didn't make the wealth, the sweatshop workers made the goods, the wall-mart workers provides the goods to the public, the owners just sits on their ass and steal the wealth of the workers.

Yes, wealth gravitiates to wealth under capitalism, this is basic economics. If I had 1 billion dollars, I will be able to get more weather easier, the a person that only has 1 dollar.

Not everyone can have good jobs, plus the cash register operators do far more work then the owners.

 

A function that the workers can do on their own through democratic means, thousands of workers voting on what to do, is better then a few owners that will give the boot to hardworking labourers, just so they can feed their greed.

You don't seem to know how the free market system works, the rich just has buy the means of production, then get fat off the wealth generated by the workers they have bought, they don't have to lift a finger, the goverment will use the police to ensure the wage slaves will gather wealth for the rich while the rich just sit on their ass.

Your a fucking peasant like the rest of us and don't even know it, kissing the ass of the bourgeoisie in hopes you may become like them, I'm too fucking honest to have anything to do with their kind.

 

Many people confuse communism. Many people also confuse the word socialism, and believe socialism is communism.


I think communism is a one-in-a-kind social system. It's the only classless, stateless system. In a communist society, the people work according to ability, and take according to need. You will have everything you need, and you don't have to be a wage-slave. The exploitation of man by man, has ended, and the state has withered away. Direct democracy is the form that political decision making, takes.

Are you a power-hungry?

Getting the same amount of money is not a tenet in communism, as there will be no money in a communist society. It's not even a tenet in socialism. In a socialist society (a la Cuba, China during Mao), people won't receive the same amount of money, because people receive money according to their work.

In a communist society, everyone will be free to say and write what they want. You will also have the basic freedom to have roof over your head, and live a healthy life, without poverty or abuse from the upper class.

There will be no top in a communist society, and there will be no government. And certainly no stealing, as there will be nothing to steal, because money won't exist. You will be free to take what you need.

The government you talk about, sounds more like the US government, than anything else.

 

It is fucking obvious, not my falt you can't see the large prision that imprisons us.

Yes you are, you are property of the state and your employer, the wealth you generate is stolen by both, then you are discarded when your usefulness is at a end.

Yes it is a virtue of how ones lives his live, and I refuse to live off the backs of the workers, unlike the bourgeoisie.

 

How did Mao oppress the people?

For the first time in China's history; Chinese men and women had equal rights, discrimination and racism were abolished, and China was modernized. Old and dangerous customs that were damaging people physically and mentally were also abolished.





People, who before had been whipped by their "masters", were now free from the overlords who owned them. They no longer worked for a master or an overlord, a member of the upper class. They all worked for the betterment of society. For the Chinese people as a whole, not just a few dozen out of one billion people.

 

Dictatorship of the proletariat, meaning majority rule (of the working class), even Lenin had to explain why his party was in charge since Communsim was suppose to be a true democracy, his exuse was the russian people were not ready for democracy and needed his enlightened rule to prepare russian society for democracy. Yet Marx said in 1879:

“When the International was formed, we expressly formulated the battle cry ‘the emancipation of the working class must be achieved by the working class itself.’ We cannot therefore cooperate with people who openly state that the workers are too uneducated to emancipate themselves and must be freed from above by philosophical leaders.”