Where are the gurus of the neo-hippie movement?

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by newo, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    The original hippie movement was fueled by icons such as Timothy Leary, Ken Kesey, Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin. They were all charismatic icons of the movement, they all became household names, and unfortunately they're all dead.


    The neo-hippie movement, which some would describe as nothing more than a cult, has no such icons. Naturally it has its leaders and organizers, but who among them are really famous?

    We need gurus! National and international spokespersons! Someone people can name, that hippies everywhere can look up to and hippie-haters can show contempt toward! People we can all rally around!

    Otherwise we're relegated to something less than a true movement. It's already fading, and I hope the neo-hippies aren't remembered as just a bunch of nostalgic dreamers who wished it was still the 60s.
     
  2. old tiger

    old tiger Senior Member

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    Hey,


    Gurus..yeah..in the sixties..Leary,Ginsberg,Jerry Rubin etc..
    Jerry Rubin wrote a paperback...America on zero dollars a day..;)
    Used to have it..but lost it somehow..
    Another interesting fellow these days was Richard Alpert..
    went to India..changed his name to Baba Ramdas..
    http://www.spiritwalk.org/ramdas.htm

    Emiel:)
     
  3. marymicrogram

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    I think rallying around leaders is somewhat counter to the... individualism? that is important to most neo-hippies. Leaders are necessary if something is to be accomplished, but what is there to be accomplished specifically necessitating the togetherness of the neo-hippie movement? There are leaders of various organizations that neo-hippies are associated with- leaders of peace movements, leaders of environmental movements... plus, some neo-hippies would argue that fame is a bourgeois affectation, not important to a real counterculturalist. Just because Fox doesn't pick it up doesn't mean that there aren't charismatic organizers.
     
  4. FeelinGroovy

    FeelinGroovy opposable thumb

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    Role models are out there everwhere, you just need to look for them. Some may not fit the typical mold of "hippie" but that is pretty subjective anyway. Take this article for example:


    "Something Wonderful Happens When You Plant a Seed"
    A Kenyan environmentalist wins the nobel Peace prize.
    by Mia Macdonald

    http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200503/interview.asp

    It was very refreshing and inspirational.

    Hopefully many will read the article and be inspired as well!
     
  5. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    There really is no "neo-hippie" movement. There are no activists that even begin to compare to those in the 60s....and rightfully so. In the 60s, everything was changing socially. Today, we just settled into our little shit stain society and there's really nothing to be done.
     
  6. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Nothing to be done? There's lots to be done, and in 2004 there was definitely a strong neo-hippie movement fueled by the anti-Bush crowd, but when the asswipe got re-elected it took the wind out of our sails. That's why we need someone we can rally around to get things moving again!
     
  7. green_revolution

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    lol I know I'll get weird comments for this but personally I think Ralph Nader is a sort of guru. Maybe not the type of person you'd call a leader but he does have some cool idealisms.
     
  8. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    I mean on a large scale....but sure, there are little things that may change, but nothing will make it remotely like the 60s. A new path has to be formed.

    Plus, the movement wasn't even strong enough to get young voters out to vote in the other idiot.
     
  9. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    i think you'll see "leaders" in each concern: Richard Glen Biore of Cognitive Liberty, for example.
    If you aren't into the cog lib thing, you might not know his name.
    Peace movements have focalizers in many areas, physical and conceptual.
     
  10. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    In the 60s the bulk of the populace was young and wanted freedom and change.

    In the 2000s the bulk of the populace is old and wants security and someone else to pay the bills, and have embraced conservatism and/or me-first liberalism.

    The freedom fighters of the 60s are the anarchists and radical dangerous element of today.
     
  11. green_revolution

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  12. UXnIHAOnUXbmUXn

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    Well.. the same type of mind's could very well be around today, just you don't hear about them like you did in the 60s. The media has changed alot, for the worse. Everything is a work of programming in the 21st century. Jobs all require a specific training set, drug testing, and systematic duties these days. The modern world is taking its tole on humanity. No longer do people live and work for an individual passion or philosophy.. the people in the 60s did. The hippy era was a dramatic response by the individualistic people to stop the world from turning into what it has become.

    Today a newscast would demonize anything about Timothy Leary, calling him a dangerous threat to our nations youth. A man who broke the psychologists code of ethics. The dullminded people today believe such propogandist snippets coming from a media they're conditioned into blindly trusting. Back 30 years ago, people actually read books and reasoned and imagined for themselves. believe it or not...

    2005 is a sad time to live in.
    And the terrorists WILL destroy you. They are not human to do what they do.. blow up bombs. That is sick and perverted and the only way for us to destroy that enemy is to blow up bombs. And the rest of you need to seal your houses with duck-tape, and check local terror alerts.
     
  13. seamonster66

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    There aren't any, which is why the movement is hollow. Its mostly fashion. There are real hippies, but they aren't "neo."

    I realized this in 1991 while in college, the "neo-hippies" were mostly rich kids from NY who would soon shave their beards. The couldn't even be neo-hippies without their parent's check every month.
     
  14. makno

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    solutions to future exigencys will reguire faith in yourself and your crew and your instincts .... ....than paridigms from high holys ,,,,,,
     
  15. purplesage

    purplesage Ah, fuck it...

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    I think I'm finally starting to realise that...
     
  16. newo

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    Perhaps it's because the current movement just isn't big enough and doesn't have the momentum to produce any major icons. If the draft were reinstated we could produce the impetus needed, but do we really want to have the draft brought back just to see a total rebirth of the movement? Counterculture movements reflect the inequities of the culture, and I'd rather see the neo-hippie movement go under than to rise up because things have gotten worse than they already are.
     
  17. peaceful chaos

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    being a youth of today myself i see firsthand how my generation is going downhill each and every day.the main reason i think my generation doesn't have a huge counterculture following is because there isn't a very solid emphasis on what the counterculture is and what it really means.part of the reason for my generations blindness towards such things can be attributed to the fact that the media has and continues to make a huge impact on how we view and base our opinions on everything around us.

    since the people of my generation for the most part base there opinions of everything around them according to what the media sais and fail to realise that the media's main goal is to make profit through consumerism alot of what we view as rebelious or hip is based on outside appearance rather than actions and state of mind.

    so basically to some it up the reason no huge revolutions are happening among the youth of today is because instead of making an actual impact on humanity we rely on the cloths we wair to make an impact for us.
     
  18. give me an army and I will give you a revolution.......



    or perhaps just a looting destroying mass, but I'm not horribly opposed to that right now.....
     
  19. THE_duder

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    I relly have to know about the neo hippies, what the stand for and alike. Can someonn gimme a tip of a good neo hippie page.
     
  20. Moon Water

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    they are out there you just need to pay attention and you will see all sorts of people. People just have a hard time looking. Tom Petty, he has important things to say, just listen and you will their words. They need more ears
     

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