Yet another gripe about the pre-employment process!!

OK....We hate drug tests. We disagree with pre-employment credit checks.
We think background checks are an invasion of privacy, AND NOW.....one more thing to add to the BULLSHIT of the job hunt. Pre-Employment Surveys!!!

You know, those 100 question questionaires that ask stupid shit like "Would your friends say you were a dependable person?" Answer "A" if yes "B" if sometimes "C" if maybe "D" if no. What type of person in their right mind is going to answer any other way than the way the company wants to hear? So why the waste of time then? Not to mention the waste of money and printing materials. I even have a friend that was denyed a job because of her answers on such a survey.

It's just another way for them to discriminate with hiring practices.

How far are "we the People" going to let "them the corporations" go?

 

PS.....Ironically, most of the time you find these surveys when applying for jobs that don't pay enough to wake up for.

 

yeah, I don't like all the pre employment b.s. resumes are worthless till post third real job

 

Yeah I had to fill one of those out when I went for a job at KFC. There was stuff like "Is it ever ok to steal from an employer" I mean, really, who is going to say yes??

I have never heard of companies drug testing people applying for jobs before. Thats really bad!

 

I solved the problem! I refuse to work for "THE MAN"
Seriously, I do odd jobs now and make enough to get by on. I could never go back to a 9-5. I'd rather shoot myself in the spine and hope for disability.

 

I'm getting tired of the whole rat race and working for THE MAN. What's next, along with your application you'll have to supply a dna sample? Give up your first born? Sell your soul? All for long hours, slave wages and no benefits.

Unbelievable.

 

the whole system is fucked there all trying to make us slaves made to work i say fuck the government and the army because wut the army doesnt tell you is ya sure u get through college but if we are at war u leave ure family and go kill innocent people in fuckin iraq they kill babies young children old men and women and fathers and mother brothers and sisters bush got us in some fucked up shit and he has to get us out of it
now having to do with jobs fuck illeagle immagrants stealing all the jobs piss tests regularly on just about any job u get now wut every happened to privacy ya know its just everyone wants to get in to your business get the fuck out of here with that bull shit telling me that i cant smoke my marijuanna fuckin pigs ill smoke my shit all i want and there isnt a fuckin damn thing u can do about it

 

Amen, brother!!!

 

It's just another way for the Big Corporations to run our little lives, but there are ways around it.

I've got an advanced degree and a professional job, yet my "extracurricular activities" would, no doubt, be frowned upon by most companies. The irony of it is I'm very competant at my job, and more productive than a lot of the Corporate kiss-ass geeky losers who live the cookie-cutter life, go home, hit the mall, live up to the Joneses, you get the idea. Meanwhile, I'm out partying my ass off, camping out at some music festival, yet I do a better job than they do.

I've always hated drug tests, yet I've always found ways to thwart them. I haven't had a pre-employment screen in a long time, and the way around it has been to become a consultant, so I'm not really a part of the corporations I work for, I just do my job and get paid for my time. I love the lifestyle, no background checks, less responsibility, etc., yet some folks would like to believe I have less job security. Job security? I ask, there's no such thing!

 

Well, I just passed me a pre-employment drug screen yesterday. The way I did it was pretty off the wall though, I did the old "clean specimen in a condom down my pants" trick.....eeewwwww!!!!...but I needed a job. It just goes to show that people (like myself) will go to great lengths to get around "THE MAN".

So, Mellow Yellow, what kind of a "consultant" are you??? LIke the guys in the movie "Office Space"....you know the ones who tell the bosses who to fire. No offense man, but in my experiences, consultants are usually just useless yuppies.

 

I'm glad you pulled it off. Other options would be Golden Seal or charcoal, if you take them a few days before the screen, they'll clean out your system. Once I actually drank vinegar, it was nasty, but it worked. What gets me is they can detect weed in your system up to 30 days after you indulge, but if you're a coke head, it only takes a few days.

Nope, I'm glad to say I'm not one o' those useless yuppies, I don't know how anyone can do that for a living, telling a company how they can make money based on improving efficiency and firing people...

...I'm a computer geek, I write the code that goes into instruments, sorta the "brains" of the instruments. For years whenever I changed jobs I had to do the pre-employment screen thing, now as a consultant I don't deal with that. I do the same kinda work as some of the regular employees, but I just do my thing, get paid by the hour, and they leave me alone 'cause they know it'll get done, yet I don't deal with meetings, politics, or any of that other corporate garbage.

The down side is whenever there's layoffs, I'm the first guy to go, but that can be cool sometimes, I really enjoyed the last time I was unemployed, I spent time with my daughter, who was an infant at the time. It is scary for guys like me these days though, 'cause they're always trying to ship the work off to India or China instead of hiring guys like me 'cause it's cheaper (and I've had to take some pay cuts because of this), but I think they're finding it's not as much cheaper as they thought in the long run.

 

Another thing that sucks is the job interview itself. I'm in my early 50's and remember the times when a job interview was mostly about things like "can you do the job?" Now that's the least of their concerns, they ask all these touchy-feely horsesh*t questions like, "What's your biggest weakness?" A friend replied to that question (once he figured out that he didn't want to work for the place) with, "Women's underwear. There's nothing wrong with a guy who wants something soft and silky next to his skin, is there?"

 

wooooot! join the club! i scrape by selling some art here and there and doing a lot of bartering and trading. i won't be working for 'the man' ever again.

the last job interview i had was at walmart. i sat there for 3 hours answering all these stupid questions - that really had nothing to do with whether or not i could scan items and give back correct change - and THEN the interviewer decided i should have a third interview with one of the managers... who decided she couldn't say my name (it is unusual but really not that hard to pronounce, and it's spelled the way it's said) so she'd call me 'Erica instead... i can say that and so the customers will be able to also'. WTF? i lost it and told her i'd rename her something entirely different simply because i didn't like her much too usual name... it was TOO easy to pronounce, we should give customers a bit of a challenge. she wasn't impressed.

i wasn't hired. and i haven't searched since. and i've been HAPPIER working on my own when i need to, doing things i like to do and being here with my kids.

-z

 

I hate those questions. All I'm really concerned with is does the job pay enough and are there benefits? But of course you're not suppose to ask those questions in an interview, right?
I really have to start looking at an alternative to all this 9-5 bullshit.

 

I've officially tried everything but lying, I've even applied to shit holes........ they just value experience over competence, I know a guy who has gotten fired from three jobs from smoking pot, he can still get jobs......

I can't get any sort of job because I don't have experience and I'm willing to tell the truth to these assholes, what do they want an idiot who lies or someone who is competent who tells the truth, there was this dumbass who put on his app at the last cattle call I went to that he could type 120 WPM now what the fuck is that, the son of a bitch had sausages for fingers and couldn't hold a pen without concentrating, he got hired I didn't even get an interview......


I hate people.......

 

Nice, I'm gonna remember that one for the next asshole I interview with.

 

These people who think they have the right to run ours lives seem to forget something.
We are the people who cook their food, tend their yards, clean their houses, build their homes, serve their drinks & drive them around. If they keep up this practice of pre-employment bullshit & blackballing they can do the jobs themselves. As I read thru the posts here and talk to others, I find more & more people choose to live off the grid. We are human beings and should not be treated like something they scraped of the bottom of their shoe.

 

Unfortunately you're right, and as the corporations get bigger and bigger, and the disparity between the bosses and the workers gets worse, this problem gets worse. I think that a lot of places treat their workers like shit to keep them down, the idea being that if you feel bad about yourself, you'll work harder to keep your job, you won't look elsewhere 'cause you don't feel worthy, and you won't bug them for a raise for the same reason. Indeed this approach works IN THE SHORT TERM, but in the long run it fails, word gets out that those guys suck to work for, they have a high turnover, moral is low, productivity is low, and ultimately profits drop.

I like to visualize a world in which all the workers say "FUCK YOU" at once, then the fat cat assholes have no one to do their dirty work for them, where will they be then? Meanwhile, people like us are living off the grid, raising our own food, while the fat cats starve 'cause they have no clue how to do anything for themselves.

 

can you imagine instant 100% unemployment..... but every corporation on earth completly without workers...... the economy would collapse..... shit would get a lot less formal though.....

 

Well shit man!

God forbid that your prospective employer...you know...the ones relying on you & paying you should know a little bit more about you than you'll be presenting to them in an interview.

I don't agree with drug tests, but everything else is pretty much fair game as far as i'm concerned.