Do any of you listen to hip hop?

I'll listen to and enjoy all kinds of music, which includes hiphop, RnB, and yes, rap. While I admittedly don't know very much about hiphop and RnB, I'm always open to learn and hear more.

My boyfriend/best friend is really big on these types of music, coming straight out of the rez (Native American Indian Reservation - he's half native, half black), into 7 Mile and Dearborn (Detroit) and back. But hey, it's fine by me, because I get to hear more of it and learn more about it. He's also a -great- dancer, he's got the voice of an angel and he's been breakdancing since he was 10.

While I've always been a rocker girl, raised on the best of it and lovin' it.. I really, really, really, really like this kind of music, too!

 

If you read the very last line of the post immediately above this one, you'll realise that Spackman's been sacked again!

"Also RnB and Rhythm'n'Blues are even MORE different. Just thought I'd point that out."

 

meh, mf doom is over rated.

but del on the other hand is gold. sad to see he is not wit the gorillaz on their new album

 

Hey Stoner
Where do you live?

 

krs one has cool lyrics

 

I don't know the difference in hip hop and rap,to be honest. I'll probably get bashed for this lol,but I love....Cypress Hill.

 

I love the Beastie Boys.

 

Hip-Hop isnt music, it's a culture, Rap is a part of.

and just because u dont have subs in your car dont hate

all music sounds better with a good system, and good subs are a part of a good system.

dont talk about things u dont understand plz.

 

It's music, all right. This is what so many people don't realise. Rap and hip-hop are not the same thing. Rap is a technique for performance used in a number of types of music, just as singing is. Hip-hop is one of those types of music, however there are plenty of examples of hip-hop that don't actually have any rapping in them. They might have singing, or they might be completely instrumental, but it's still hip-hop because of the rhythms used as well as the effects, the genre-specific processing of the samples, the chord progressions, the 'instrumentation' (allthough it's more complicated than instrumentation in other sorts of music - more to do with blends of samples, synths and acoustic instruments than just assigning melody lines and parts to instruments), etc. which are all clear signs of how jazz evolved into hip-hop.

Here's an analogy. You're at the opera, first thing you hear is an overture. There's no singing in it, but what you're hearing is still part of an opera.

Similary you can have Rap that isn't hip-hop. Personally I don't think that any sorts of music other than hip-hop and UK garage can really support Rap because they're just not rhythmically involved enough, but people try and alas that's how you end up with shitty RnB or Gangsta Rap that gives rapping a bad name.


Where it all goes horribly wrong with rap, is actually the same sort of thing that let's music with singing in it down. The rappers or singers tend to overpower the rest of the track by a long way. It shouldn't be like that. The vocal element of a track is really only one part of it, and no more important than the rest. Yes, it's the focal point and so that's where everything should converge with the words coming out from that focus of the music to define the music, but that doesn't mean that the rapper or singer should be the major component with everything else merely there for rhythmic and harmonic support.

In proper hip-hop the backing tracks are actually really involved. Unlike your commercial scheidt where you just take a looped sample of either a 70s disco classic or a piece of J.S. Bach, add a skeleton beat and begin rhythmically (or otherwise) and unenthusiastically rapping about this that and the other, in real hip-hop there is an awful lot that goes into producing the track. Your main loop is almost never just a sample taken from a single piece of existing music. It's usually put together and composed for the track. Even if it's made of lots of existing samples it won't resemble anything you recognise, because there'll be bits and pieces from all over the place, cleverly arranged together with added effects, scratches and extra lines or chord patterns that help it grow and evolve subtley throughout the track. And that's the other thing that is important. The backing loop develops, evolves and transforms. It doesn't just keep going round and round unchanged like the commercial rubbish. It still has a repetitive feel but it's not pure repetition, there's real intelligence behind it and the progression will in the best cases be sympathetic to the lyrics, just as has been the tradition with setting lyrics to music since the days of Schubert.

Also there's fast hip-hop, slow hip-hop, chilled hip-hop, all sorts. A lot of chill-out music you might hear is actually hip-hop. It's all to do with the beat, the chords and all the other things I described above, but with the emphasis being on harmonic progressions and less emphasis on rhythms or driving forces or indeed rapping.

 

i agree, ive heard r'n'b and its nothing like what its labeled today.

 

um, no... its not a culture. its music that goes along with a culture. thats like me saying that reggae is a culture, not music, or rock or whatever. that is seriously one of the most stupid things ive ever heard. on the other hand, there are some "old school" artist i like. but all in all i really cant stand it.

and by the way, what does it matter if anyone knows your quote w/out looking it up? that doesnt prove anything. alot people that listen to songs can only remember the chorus. although i hate that, its true.

 

haha dont even get me started...

Foundations of HIPHOP are as follows: Bboying, Mcing, Grafitti, and Djing

if hiphop is music that goes along with a culture, what culture would that be?

somone who "cant stand" hiphop trying to tell me what it is, yea..ok.

and i said find out the quote in my sig, because that quote is from one of the Top 5 Rap albums of all time, so if u havent heard it, u arent into hiphop very much.

 

no, im not into it. i admit it does take talent but i dont think its worthy of the attention it gets. and i wasnt trying to tell you what it is, i was just telling you that hip hop itself is not a "culture", its music. im not sitting here saying rock is a culture, but it does go along with different cultures. its music, end of story

 

yes because if you havent heard that nas cd, you have no knowledge of hip hop right? get the fuck out of here with that shit

 

thats all it is, music to play. get over it digitaldj, rap is at an all time low. no big deal

 

haha well if u havent, your not into hiphop end of story, that CD is too good to be overlooked basically so unless your in a hole in the ground, or just totally dislike nas, there's no reason to not have heard it.

I shouldnt even reply to your responses though, if u think u know anything about hiphop, your knowledge is minimal at best, so why the fuck are you in a Hip-hop thread?

u dont know the origins

u dont know the lifestyle

u dont know anything there is to hip-hop

"Hip-hop" is at an all-time low"....yea ok althought 75% of the stuff on the radio can be classified under that category, even though it stinks, it's still there, Hip-Hop can never die or fade away, just evolve with the times.

u know nothing of this subject, so i dont even know why u bother to post in it.

 

I listen to hip-hop.

 

me to but apparently i have no knowledge of the rap game haha youre a fuckin idiot digital dj. you black or latino and from the ghetto? my knowledge is low on hip hop because i didnt reply to you? hmmm i own a few nas cds includin "illmatic". i dont know the origins, lifestyle, or anything there is to hip hop? interesting you say that cause i have about 400 rap cds sittin here next to me but i guess that doesnt mean shit huh? u seem to be an angry nerd who has to unleash his shit on me. you sure u aint a wigger haha? oh and if hip hop is evolving with times, evolution is going the wrong way and should be stopped

 

I dont like it and don't listen to it. seems very violent and angry. but whatever i dont know much about it.

 

yeah.