Islam disrecpected because of two main reasons

America is disrespected Islam because according to my point of view reason behind this is


1nd:
they are very much afraid of from the people who are converting into Islam so they cannot punish to those American people so America has decided to insult Islam and try to give a picture to american people that this religion is a religion of terrorist so u do not need to convert into Islam. Because it can create problem to Jews in the long run who are in living in America or outside
America.


2nd :
the next American effort is to change muslim's culture and try to increase sex related activities that will increase AIDS patients in muslims societies with the help of this they can protect their people and can say muslims are also doing sex and they also have AIDS so you do not need to convert into Islam.


To change culture of muslims America is trying to change educational curricular because its a biggest weapon to change the mind sets and also trying to use some other things like freedom,democracy and rights of women.


The second big reason is capturing the middleast oil resources so they can enforce Europe to surrender in front of America.They are very much tense with the economy of European countries. So in order to do this they had to create a reason to attack Iraq and now on Iran.

i hope u will enjoy this.

 

womens rights are such a bad thing, hey... what are you scared of?


and you are totally wrong. There is no war against Islam.

Your speculations about what the US is about are wrong. and, btw, the term 'American' encompasses two whole continents. Someone from Argentina (South American continent) can also be considered 'American'.

Killing anything is wrong in my book.

Your generalization and religious hatred is really gross.

 

I am an old American. I feel we have been incorrect in many things we have done. If Americans voted more, many problems we have, wouldnt be. I understand your energy in the area of Islam, but believe what you believe, do not worry about anyone and pointing out someones faults never led anyone anywhere. We insult everyone.... even each other.....in these forums sometimes. But you agree some terrorists have claimed Islam is part of the reason for their deeds? Blame the media. Americans believe the TV (right or wrong). The Jews always have had problems.. and in their book it says why, we have no control over that...we are not that powerful. And if you are faithful in most religions you wont be humping and corking whoever and getting Aids. And if you are so close to Allah to speak in his defence, why do you call yourself small penis, is that a name in the Koran... in America that would be considered bad form. Would Allah be proud of you talking about genitiles in the same sentence you talk about him. Answer in your head..I do not know your faith. Yeah, we Will work on that democracy stuff and the only reason you can talk here and say not so nice things about the USA, is because of rights like freedom of speech, pretty much only in America. Hip Forums is only here because of the freedom of speech. The rights of women did not happen til not so long ago and they flourished with it. I am sure you will hear from them. However all in the human race should be equal because we are..right? ...yes...no...? I apologise if this is all about that... you are a woman who feels she should not have rights and bow before men and you are bragging about being a lower class citizen and follow the alpha male. If you are, come here shead your berka and be free to choose if you want to worship WHOMEVER or have sex and look at dirty movies, or live somewhere in between. If youre not a woman ...why care? Is not your primary duty to get as close to Allah as possible? Are you as close as you can be? If you can get closer, worry about that... when you think you are close as you can be.....you still wont be, will you?. As far as the oil.... I hope we get it from somewhere...I have a huge Cadillac. I say all of this so that you will consider maybe YOU should convert to lighting candles instead of cursing the darkness. Havent you ever changed your mind about something? That mean you were wrong..so consider, you might be wrong now. American are reap what you sow sorta folks...talk nice..fine, YELL and we will clock you. Find a freespeech middle east forum over there and YELL at the bad guys killing women and childen with bombs and hacking off heads on video, to stop saying Islam made me do it. Oh never mind ..there isnt any forums there. There are alot of forums here...I never saw the bad wrap american one, but Ill look and if thereis ..I AM outa here. I also am sorry if I got sounded rude, I did not mean to...like when you get mad you are called scum sucking jerkoffs who come outa second class citizens or whatever you said, I get cranky when ya say something bad about the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...phew, I nearly became pro nuclear....lets not do this again. peace.

 

Whats with all this bagging America stuff. It's a nice place and it has nice people. Some might be a little paranoid but meh

 

My neighbors just got back from the outback, they said the same about you all.. Its a nice place with nice people. I did border psycho though. Maybe I should calm it down. Ah........no. Syd you all look like my pals.

 

the current war between america and islam is a war of fanatics. both sides believe they hold the true faith and that the world can only survive if the other side is destroyed. fanatical indoctrination is on both sides. who will be the winner? history seems to suggest that the side with the largest militarised industrial capacity will ultimately win. once the war is over another infidel will be manufactured/ found and another war will be started, more people will be killed and more money will be made for the share holder and everyone will be happy. unfortunately history also seems to suggest that war can bite you on the a*se, savagely, and the forces and counter forces created may not be what you wanted.
take rome and carthage for example - two powers of the mediterranean squared off against each other. rome defeated carthage in three wars over a period of about a hundred years i think - you see, rome needed a war. in the first war the senators and businessmen sent the plebs off to war, instead of tending their fields. over the course of 20 years of the first war most of the soldiers eventually had to sell off their land in italy to pay debts accrued for wartime service. when they came back 20 years later they had no land, no money and no jobs because they had victoriously brought a heap of newly made slaves back to do the work. in the last war rome destroyed and salted the very soil of the city (of carthage) and sorrounds so that no one would want to live there again, kind of like an ancient b52 bombing. what most people don't know is that around 5/600 years later the carthaginians went over to rome and sacked it around the same time everyone else was kicking the boot into it. i suppose what we are seeing here could be the same thing (rather like the outcome of the last crusade into the middle east) given time, the originators of the war eventually get their just desserts.

 

But back to the Aussie forum

 

Damn ...great singin like it is sister Trickster, you're far beyond your years in smarts. I'll fight for your rights to free speech. I like what you say and how you said it. I do not know how I ended up in Aussie land, only thing I know is you all dont mince words (including the Islam man) and I loved the exchange. Cornwall is in my history too, maybe thats why I like your style. Peace is more .....than absence of war.

 

*cough* There is no war against Islam! Many Americans are Islamic. Many Australians are Islamic. Get over it...

 

sorry old chap, no disrespect to yourself but you might just have to recheck your compass on this one - have a look around the various sites out there in the world and quite a few islamic sites think america is attacking islam.

you see in roman times when rome conquered/ invaded various territories for their wealth, the inhabitants would have to pay homage to the roman emperor in power at that time - providing not only tribute but worshipping him as a god. unfortunately there was always a problem when some cultures refused to do this due to their religion oh to name a few those pesky christians, jews etc. anyway i feel that the american way of life is an affront to these islamic cultures, what we have here is just another collision of ideologies, if you don't follow the american way of life then you are not worshipping the american deity (you are with us or against us) therefore you must be crushed, if you don't follow the islamic way of life then you'll have to cop a beating too or a few airliners slammed into a couple of your high rises. i suspect that at the moment alot of pidgeons are coming home to roost. the americans having started a heap of wars committed untold crimes of humanity that even the nazi's would have baulked at are amazed when trouble finds its way home. if you don't like it done to yourself don't do it to other people - this is a simple philosophy most sane children grow up with. the islamists on the other hand have created their own troubles too. thankfully i don't live under draconian islamic sharia nor american law so for me the whole conflict between the US and isalm is more of philisophical teaching for myself. i can't it stop happening but it doesn't mean that i can't learn from it. anyway the romans and islam might well pass into history.

 

obviously we all have our perceptions of what is and/or the conspiracy theories that we can come about simply coz we derive our intelligence of things from various sources - and this coz we're blinded by the media who are perhaps not allowed to exercise too much on the 'freedoms of speech or expression' or have an agenda to keep things from us (conspiracy theory ?) - but yea, as in everythin in life - we can't always have a 360 degree, (even on this information highway) and end up doin the "readin-between-the-lines" and pickin up a theme, if you will, to gain better understandin

...if indeed we're after that, which obviously requires an open heart and mind without the preformed judgements that most can become guilty of !

now, keepin the above in mind ..DrFeelGood ..if you read through what 'smallpenis' has written - you may have felt the need to defend the american (united states of) values versus Islam ..and in doin so, you've suggested quite a few things that may well be found to be derogatory and/or insultin. perhaps, a different approach may have addressed the theory of the writer without appearin to dismiss it (even if it sounded total bollocks to you)

i do however appreciate your sentiments in feelin the need to defend (or justify) the actions of your government (no blame to the public, includin yourselves or to the ones who've put the administration back in the office) when you felt the values you've grown up with were under attack. please do bear in mind, muslims around the world and especially in europe, north america and australia have been doin just that for longer than they'd care to

now, i haven't picked on any of your specific remarks to comment on - coz there's no need if you understand what i've been tryin to get at. but i'd be glad to get into a debate on the specifics, if you do seek clarity in havin a better understandin of the muslims, mideasterners - their way of life and values

guy, your comments were quite objective and i believe you did give a balanced view of the whole situation. however, a quick observation - there is no war between america (it's a whole continent innit as Dr mentioned which he over-looked later as he kept writin) and islam

.....it's really between fanatics whatever they claim their way of life to be or the values or philosophies they claim subscribin to. so in effect, the ones claimin to be americans (leadin the fight against the so-called islamists or muslim terrorists as the media so loves to label'em) are not representation of the purest form of the american values and the others claimin to be muslims are not the representation of Islam !

i suppose it all comes down to perceptions as i suggested earlier - but really, understandin different points of view and not necessarily agreein, but acknowledgin and acceptin would be in line with the spirits of the 'hippies'

 

i suppose america might as well declare war on the weather for any good it will do them rather like war on islam but it doesn't mean they can't declare war on it. i think that one thing that the current events have taught me is that our perceptions of what war is and general rules you should generally abide by in the name of "good taste" have flown out the window. the war on iraq for example isn't actually defined as a war by the americans, this means the geneva convention has flown out the window. people wonder why suicide attacks are in the abundance- the answer is simple, if you engage in a conventional way against the american army your troops will be tortured/massacred after surrender. the secret is never to be taken alive, for life will be worse than death especially under the hand of the torturer. a quick study of the ss in world war two sort of gives a preamble of for whats going on over in iraq. firstly send troops in to kill organised military response to your invasion then mop up opposition by sending in specialised teams to torture/kill people deemed offensive. the nazi's used this technique with much success in eastern europe in their quest to rid europe of the "unter menschen". i could go on but i won't!!