A Man's Choice...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by BrownTripleQQ, Jun 10, 2005.

  1. BrownTripleQQ

    BrownTripleQQ Member

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    Scenario: A woman is 29, college grad, great job, no children and a strong woman. She meets a man; he is 32, college grad, no children, and has a great job, as well. They start dating and within two months, she is pregnant. He is not excited about this child and do not want a child right now. She is excited because she believed she could not get pregnant and she always wanted a child. He asks her to abort the baby, and she responds with a resounding NO.

    He pleads with her not to have this child, because he does not want to be a dad nor is he ready to be a dad. She hears him out and decides to have the baby anyway. They end up going their separate ways. A year later he receives some papers, informing him he needs to appear before a judge because she is seeking Child Support.

    The question is, do you all believe that a court should be able to force a man to support a child he did not want???
     
  2. Lodog

    Lodog Senior Member

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    Doesn't matter. If he didn't want the child he should have taken the correct precautions in the first place.

    Besides For every man that doesn't really deserve to pay it, there are about 9 others that do. The world revolves around money. If someone sees a way to get more they'll do it. It's just the nature of the beast.
     
  3. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    you know, I think I'm really starting to like you:H

    couldn't have said it better myself
     
  4. jackbequick88

    jackbequick88 Member

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    I agree with the statement of necessary precautions. Don't want the child... shit, more than half the people who pay child support don't want the kid(s) they are paying for.
     
  5. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    if the roles were reversed, and the man wanted it and the woman didnt, should the man be able to make her have it for him, and then make her pay child support?
     
  6. hiro

    hiro pursue it

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    Of course he should pay it because he should have not had sex with her knowing that "accidents" happen. Plus alot of douche bag dads don't pay it... aka my dad and that is not fair for the mom to deal with.
     
  7. jackbequick88

    jackbequick88 Member

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    You make a valid point but I still believe that the father should have a say in wether the baby is born. I don't know about making the mother pay child support (depending on job status and such) but I do firmly believe in that the father should have the same percentage in rights towards the baby's birth.
     
  8. littlemistymop

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    Its a tough one..

    If I got pregnant and the guy didnt want a baby but I did, then I'd take full support of it, I wouldnt make it his responsibility if he didn't want a child. Thats just not fair in my opinion.

    Could depend on circumstances..
    If for instance he had known the girl was against abortion and was not going to have one if she got pregnant, THEN he was taking the risk..
    Girls cant expect guys to not have sex unless they want a baby. cos accident can ALWAYS happen! ..and imagine how girls would react if none of the guys wanted to anymore because of that risk, they would be outraged!!

    Its the girls body, but its the couples choice I think. If anything, I think its more a girls right to have an abortion even if the guy wants the baby, because it is her body that has to deal with it all.
     
  9. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    The guy should keep his weenie in his pants in the first place.

    And Mr Migu, although you bring up a good point, my answer has to be no. It's still my body. I know it's sexist, but pregnancy is sexist in the first place, there's no getting around it.
     
  10. Death

    Death Grim Reaper Lifetime Supporter

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  11. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    Mr Migu does have a good point but I dont know... I dont think there really is any RIGHT answer for this.
     
  12. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    Do you think you could find a bigger picture?
     
  13. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    just wanted to co-sign this
     
  14. Death

    Death Grim Reaper Lifetime Supporter

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    as a matter of fact thats the only one i could find on the first page of google image search for condom
     
  15. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    I have gotten two women pregnant in my life and they both had abortions without me asking them too as in both scenarios the relationship wasn't serious. I am not proud of either of these situations. I am glad that I am not a father right now as I personally don't believe in having children with someone that you don't have a desire to spend the rest of your life with. In both situations though, I was lied to by the women saying they were on birth control and in both situations I wanted to wear a condom, but was essentially begged not to as they enjoyed sex better without one. Even in my situation where I was lied to, I still feel that its a woman's right to choose. It may not be all together fair, but as was stated before, there's really no way around this one as it is the woman's body.
     
  16. Lodog

    Lodog Senior Member

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    Hey. Sometimes with issues like these, you need to look at the big picture.
     
  17. littlemistymop

    littlemistymop Member

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    Death, how was a picture of a condom any sort of response to what i said?
     
  18. Death

    Death Grim Reaper Lifetime Supporter

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    because you mentioned a couple of circumstances where a condom would be the perfect solution.
    and you didnt even mention the condom.

    but yorue right about thinking its impossible to keep a guy from having sex even if thy dont want a baby. i mean there are no words or actions you can take to keep him from puttin his thing in your thing.

    *sarcasm*
     
  19. sooty_the_kat

    sooty_the_kat Senior Member

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    actually part of me thinks that if the woman had the baby knowing that the man didnt want anything to do with it (and he wasnt an asshole about it) then he shouldnt have to support it later when she decides she wants him to. she had it full well knowing he wasnt going to help out, and it wasnt as if she was forced to have it she chose to she should take the responsibility for her actions. just the other side of the story. not saying i disagree with the other views.
     
  20. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    I have 2 male friends who are paying child support for kids they didn't want. One of them is not even part of the kid's life because he didn't want to be, the other one does see his son. But they both pay every month.

    Child support isn't a gift or like winning at BINGO. It is money needed to support the child- food, clothing and a roof over their head. If a child is born, there is a mother AND a father responsible for that. Why should the child be essentially blamed for their own existance and not cared for properly? Men know very well that pregnancy is always a possibility. We don't get ourselves pregnant.

    Bottom line: if you don't want a kid, the most effective contraceptiion is to go home and jerk off. :D
     
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