the young kids fighting i can understand but there is NO reason why the adults cant

Peace,

we all must keep the past alive. stop talking and start walking. it seems the few good minds who didnt sell out are getting banged back and forth! we are loosing and lost many good minds of our generation because of lack of communication. i do not want that happening here. we are supposed to learn from out mistakes no falter to them. we are supposed to enlighten other but how can we if we fail to enlighten ourselves and each other. WE1 had good points he was trying to point out and it seems like everyone was against him. you all should know he was trying to enlighten and spring the memories of what we fought for. now i ask you ALL who fought WE to send him a pm. i have never seen him so upset and someone somehow rubbed him the wrong way. he is my friend and i dont care who did it i want them to appologize. please. its what we fought for.

later

the upset flower child

 

dude who is he? i never heard of him

 

don't let it get you down
it's only castles burning

 

I know from experience, that those who choose to object the loudest to what experience have brought to many of us, is the ones who need the most lessons.

Some of the ones that question are genuine and are asking in hope to understand. Some others just want to dis-grace what we have learned and what we pass on to the ones that are interested.

This is just me and what I believe to be real and true. They are mine and I own them forever. My experience is what I draw from. It is what has made me who I am. It is not up to anyone to say that it was wrong to go through what I did.

This is my life and how I live/lived is my choice. We all have choices as to what we believe and what we choose to hold close to our hearts and memories.

The ones that condem and lay judgement at your door seem to be lost in a fog of denial and in a suffering state of being.

That whice is given freely and with LOVE LOVE LOVE should be charished and looked upon with beauty as it was given. There is nothing that is forcing you to drink from the cup, it is there for the taking if wanted or needed to draw upon.
It's like going to a cafe' and looking at the menu and seeing something you don't like to eat on it, do you rant and rave for them having it on the menu or do you contenue to look for something you like.

That's the way it is here. If you don't like the first entre keep reading and you'll eventually find something you do like. It is unkind to and childish to bash the waiter for what's on the menu.

I have found myself in the same possition as WE1 and I understand his frustration. But it's like the Two Wolves, it's which one you feed that survives. It's not easy to be civilized at times, but it is what we must strive for if we are to become united and make changes in the world.

We each have our contributions to offer and sometimes it's a bitter lesson that we draw to ourself to grow. Even if that growth is not our own but someone elses we must contenue to LOVE LOVE LOVE where we can and be strenghtend in that love and carry on.

Overcoming obsticals is why we have come. To learn humanity, as we are Spirits having a Human experience. Have we forgotten so much as we slip into Ego. Did we forget the promises we made on the other side.

I stand beside WE1 and shine shine shine.

PS
I have not read any of what went on, but I feel I have been through it. WE1, don't let it drag you down in the dust. The gifts you bring are from the heart and are reconised.
I pray you be unbond by the negitivity that that has trapped you in it's web. I pray you be released from this negitivity and that all holds on you be lifted and you be set free under grace to fulfill you destiny. I futhermore pray that you be released from all ancetrial karma and be lifted up and washed in the Healing White Light of the loving source that created us. Blessed Be WE1 under grace in a most perfect way.

 

I'm not sure what happened with WE, but I have missed seeing his posts here...I always enjoyed what he had to say...whatever animosity was directed towards him, I must have missed...come on back, WE...we miss ya'!

 

Is questioning the status quo negativity?Where would we be if Viet Nam or Nixon were never challanged.These are just words being thrown around in this forum.Ideas.There is name calling,but these people i just laugh at.No harm,no foul.Without the exchange of different opinions we might as well all live in a box.Chicken crates work well cause they're waxed and keep the rain off your head.

Have you ever had a favorite song that you would sing over and over until finally one day someone comes up singing the same song with the right words?Yeah,lifes kinda like that.peace

 

Peace Gate,

remember not to judge a man before you walk around in his shoes for a while. the war effected him more personally then most people think. he was drafted and if you went through what he did not to mention before and after the war what it does to him when people talk about such things in a disrespectful mannor. he has always been kind and respectful on here, and he must have been very upset at what was said. and i am shamed at who ever did that.

later

the tired flower child

 

Debate is one thing, but just antagonising others is not construtive behavior. It's preverse and just plain mean. I would think you if you had NO experience in the military that you should not speak of what you dont know anything about. What you heard or read on the subject are from a media point of view and slanted. No one knows what they would in the face of war untill they are confronted with the same situation as a solider. No one knows what's in the hearts of these ones that had to fight, so ones like (blank) can sit on their fat asses and dis the ones that did serve, in the name of Debate. Debates ass. it's argumenative. There is no kindness in this form of conversation, just some one behind a screen getting their rocks off at others expence, debate my aunt sugar's foot. Debate mean dicussing the pros and cons of the subject, not blasting one for what the went through. No one is For War for Heavens sake. No one wants to go out and kill kill kill.(unless your insane).
A lot of ones that come into the forums are preditors looking for innocents to prey upon. Or a sore spot to dig at, just to ignite a flame. Some are drunks that have nothing better to do then to single out people just to antagonise them and hurt them emotionally.
We all make judgements, but to ridicule someone for something that had no control over is, assinine and they are just out to cause trouble.

 

The posts i read were about censoring Dope Sick Kid cause he uses drugs.As for the military,why do i need military experiance to speak out against it?Do i have to kill to know that it's wrong?Do i have to hate to speak out against hate?i've never raped anyone.Should i not say that it's bad?
Union,thanks,peace to you too.if you think talking bad about the military is wrong why the signiture talking about dead kids?

 

That's WHY I support these forums. To get THOSE kid's attention, and teach them Drugs aren't a PART of necesity! It's OKAY not to do drugs at all! Even Coffee!

 

Exactly.What better place for them,but please don't say coffee.Those Starbucks mocha frappicianos,don't know what to say,i got the jones.

 

I just discovered this site and this particular forum, and I find it to be wonderful.
The "Hippie", although it's has well know historical roots, is not static and is far
more than is often coined by the stereotype. Peace, living and teaching to make a
better world, and Freedom are really what are at the core of the movement that was
born long before the Hippies. The Hippie was, and is, a new and powerful manifestation
of this movement. Looking far back to, for example, Socrates or Jesus we see truly
dedicated expressions of this movement.

We should all realize that it is essentail to "walk the talk". More specifically, in
reference to this thread, everyone here is very different, clearly; and for the most
part everyone here really cares about individual freedom, human rights, asking open
and sincere questions in order to help better our world. In looking at this thread
what I see is sincere loving people, with agreement and disagreement; living, and in
pursuit of, an important goal. I am 'joyed' to see the passion and the richness of
the threads in this forum in general. So even if are different, even if we disagree,
lets embrace one another with the spirit wisdom, with the spirit of great respect;
even with limited knowledge, because what we are really working on is truly very,
very, important.

Natural23