Visionary Plants Besides Caapi

ive been looking into ethneobotanicals, but i cannot figure out which plant brew, concoction, shit to order.... i am interested in HBWR seeds, but more.... i have a san pedro growing, so i wouldn't order any more cacti, i was wondering about this "indian tobacco" thats related to the poppy. they say it is sedative and "valerian" in the high. i dunno, im fucked up right now. but what plants should i look into??

 

salvia divindorum. syrian rue is also good for making ayahouska.

 

i fucking hate salvia when im not already trippin. like i said, im looking for something BESIDES ayauhska
(can anyone spell this? lol)

im looking at:
california poppy
dream herb
kratom
HBWR
caapi and syrian rue
peruvian torch choppings
and some other stupid shit.

what would any one recommend?

 

strong dose SR will make u trip ballz

 

california poppy is ok realy just contains some of the milder less effective opiates. HBWR and morning glorys do about the same thing. dream herb is decent for having lucid dreams doenst realy get you high though. passiflora incartatia is a good euphorant but you need to infuse it to multiple X or just make resin from it. peruvian torch is prety much the same as san pedro with less mesc content.

 

I find syrian rue hard to keep down. I was disappointed with HBWR, there aren't any visuals but there is a STRONG body high. Sites say 12 seeds is a strong dose, but I found 30 to be a good dose (obviously don't start w/ 30). I recommend Mimosa Hostilis. I find entheogens hard to keep down so I recommend extracting it. You could also mix it w/ rue for ayahuasca

 

well i certinly dont recomend eating any of these substances raw except for the san pedro. allways make a tea or do a chemical extraction.

 

so no one likes kratom eh'? o well
and i dont know about any DMT extract/tea, i'd only take a small dose (i wouldnt wanna COMPLETELY lose my ego the first time) but i wanna SEE something!(can you do that, or do you have to take mass)
i dont see HBWR being too visual although i heard it is quite a body high. i think my san pedro's dying.... its gotten cold here in cincy.

 

Hi peoples.

Just a mental note if exploring the realms of Syrian Rue.
avoid aged cheese, red wine, and other aged/pickled/fermented foods (soy, yeast) for 12 hours before and after ingesting Syrian Rue.

Syrian Rue is a Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors or MAOI in short, This stops your body from breaking down certain chemical properties, most of which can be found in the foods above. These chemical properties are meant to be broken down by your body and if you stop this natural process then you will find the experience aint such a good one.
So play safe and dont eat anything aged, pickled or fermented before the trip.

If you were to ingest a mixture of crushed San Pedro the trip would be mild depending on the amount, If Syrian Rue has been used say 4-5 hours before the same San Pedro mixture is taken the trip would come on 2-3 times stronger as your body does not break down the Mescaline therefore a stronger result is achieved.

Personally if i am preparing a cocktail i tend to blend my natural ingredients together of go the other way and blend my Synthetic ingredients, eg. Mescaline+shrooms+Salvia D make an intense trip or on the synthetic side i prefer MDMA+LSD+a couple lines of speed.

Each to their own and may all enjoy their future journeys, but knowledge is your best friend and always worth listening to.

 

get a jimson weed if u want to have loads of fun lol

 

hehe, fuck datura

 

datura is fuckin insane, read some carlos castenaeda (sp) books, it'll tell you about the trips. its not a very recreational drug.

 

I use a HBWR extract all the time... 1 shot = 1 dose using high proof alcohol... HBWR can be very trippy and even quite visionary... I drink this concoction all the time.

The HBWR trip when done properly can be quite amazing...however is for the more intelegent mind rangers because the trip is not very flashy with wirlling lights and sounds... much more medative, subtle yet very powerful awareness... flawless selfawreness - naturally fall into trantic vibrations while making love...

Email me and I'll drop details if I think your worthy ;-)... In fact it's so good I won't post it for, fear of it being badly abused by super-lame-o 13 teen year olds looking for a cheap and legal high. Spiritualist-psychonauts inquiries only...

 

is jimson weed really taht harmful? I mean the Native American shamans used it almost as much as shrooms.

 

http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml

 

i'd advise against datura; it doesn't feel fun at all.

drinking ayahuasca brew is actually much milder than freebasing DMT, it's like floating down a flowing river of colorful visuals for a couple hours, as opposed to warp speed on the Enterprise for a few minutes; it's far more spiritual and entertaining than any other liquid concoction you could obtain.

 

they also used mescal beans, which also contain tropane alkaloids.

deadly nightshade, belladonna, mandrake, and even strychnine are similar in effect.