woww..i watched this movie stoned yesterday and wow! like everything that was happening in the movie had some kinda subliminal message...and like some life lesson. haha. like wen all the flowers were being mean 2 alice...i thought that the talking flowers were other drugs.and alice was just weed...so the movie was saying to try other drugs beyond marijuana....haha ok im nuts... everything that happened just made perfect sense! cool daddio...
Lewis Caroll may have tripped on mushrooms when he came up with the story line for that book. It's a myth, but it hasn't been proven to be untrue. Sure makes a lot of sense to me! Think about the hookah smoking caterpiller. There were definately a few drug references in the book. I'm sure there are more than there are in the Disney movie.
http://www.eeggs.com/items/4523.html sexynemesis writes: Lewis Carroll was in fact an opium user, but his books were not based on this drug use. Lewis told these stories to a young girl (which by the way he was in love with) names Alice and her little sisters. In the book he contradicts mathematical definitions and reality, like when Alice is running with the Red Queen, "We must keep running to stay in the same spot." Lewis Carroll was also a suspect in the Jack the Ripper murder case, reason being that supposedly his poem "the Jabberwocky" contained hidden anagrams, I have found this false, because "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass" was written many years before the murders took place. The only thing Lewis Carroll was guilty of was being a pedophile, and of course, most everyone smoked opium in his day and age. MassageU writes: Charles L. Dodgson aka (Louis Carroll)was a mathematician who taught at Oxford University. He wrote several books that incorporated the new mathematical ideas of the time. Many of which involved going into a wormhole or "looking glass" into higher dimensions. I'm sure his drug use influenced his creative ideas of what life would be like in these parallel worlds, but did not give him the inspiration for these books. I got this information from the book Hyperspace by Michio Kaku. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.romantictimes.com/g_writer/g2_1096.html Q: Dear Kristine: When did drugs become illegal? Do you feel history can teach us about drug use and perils? —B.S. A: Dear B.S.: Typically, drugs became illegal at just about the same that they became a public problem. Laudanum and other opium derivatives were sold for health complaints at apothecaries shops and, originally, Coca-Cola contained cocaine, which provided the promised "lift" that the company advertised. And, cocaine was at one time substituted for morphine in a misguided attempt to cure addicts. Similar mistakes were made when treating soldiers of the Civil War and even W.W.I, when the wounded typically became addicted to opiate painkillers. In 1898, the Bayer Drug Company began marketing a product called Heroin, the, "heroic drug with the ability of morphine to relieve pain, yet is safer." Lewis Carroll and Arthur Conan Doyle both used cocaine and opium, with Carroll's ALICE IN WONDERLAND often said to have been written whilst he was in a drug induced state. Samuel Coleridge used opium and laudanum and let us not forget Thomas de Quincey and his 1822 work, CONFESSIONS OF AN ENGLISH OPIUM EATER. Both men claim to have first turned to the drugs for medicinal reasons, like pain or neuralgic complaints. In 1803, Friedrich Serturner was able to derive both codeine and morphine from opium. Drug use would be facilitated by the invention of the hypodermic syringe Restrictive legislation first passed in Britain 1860, and the importation of smoking opium was banned in 1909. For more detailed information, try OPIUM AND THE PEOPLE: OPIATE USE IN 19TH CENTURY ENGLAND by Virginia Berridge and Griffith Edwards, St. Martin's (1982) and David Courtwright's DARK PARADISE: OPIATE ADDICTION IN AMERICA BEFORE 1940 from HUP (1940). As to your last question, history can teach us many things about many subjects. Will society ever learn from it's past mistakes? Will teenagers ever take a parent's advice on face value and go on to follow it? No. But allow me to ask you - can people become addicted to drugs if drugs were not available to them? I can't/won't swear to the validity of the above but they do make for Good Reading...
White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane One pill makes you larger And one pill makes you small And the ones that mother gives you Don't do anything at all Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall And if you go chasing rabbits And you know you're going to fall Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar Has given you the call To call Alice When she was just small When the men on the chessboard Get up and tell you where to go And you've just had some kind of mushroom And your mind is moving low Go ask Alice I think she'll know When logic and proportion Have fallen sloppy dead And the White Knight is talking backwards And the Red Queen's off with her head Remember what the doormouse said: "Feed your head Feed your head" My fav is Lather.
Sophomore year of high school my friend and i are doing a presentation on Alice in Wonderland and Lewis Carroll. My friend did all his research on the internet. Halfway through the presentation... Mike: ... and many people in Victorian England used opium 5-6 times a day - Teacher [cutting him off]: WHAT? Mike: they used opium 5-6 times a day. [Teacher stares at him in silence for about 20 seconds, then picks up her red pen and scribbles something in her grade book]: Okay Mike, keep going... It was absolutely hysterical at the time... mayhbe you had to be there.
yea, ya think the movie's nuts try the book. "Through the Looking Glass" by Lewis Carrol. He also did "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland".
i did a school report this year on that movie and we watched it in class my teacher said never agian and gave me a c+ ha....did you know that most the stuff in the movie is what the artist and writer really thought was happen? like the cat disappearing...they really thought it was....
Hey, are you guys talking about the cartoon version or the "real life" version. Cuz I was going to rent it a while ago, but they only had the cartoon version.
The DVD Alice in Wonderland (1966) “black and white, actor version” is way more trippy in my opinion. It shows a far more dark/Victorian slant than the Disney version. I enjoy the Disney version as well for visual entertainment value, but it doesn’t take you as deep down the rabbit hole. Also the book is available in a large sized hardcover annotated version which is really quite fantastic about including all sorts of extra information and excellent illustrations. Peace
