Acoustic And Electric - Are They The Same?

.. where've you been looking?

 

at local music stores, Ive only seen cut-out models made by high-end companies

 

mine's a samick, cheap brand but awesome guitar... acoustis-electric too. only $150, what a deal

 

mines a cutout, it was 300

 

Agh... you people will never get it.

 

no, George Snow, we will not get it. in fact, you are the only person here who has it, and will ever have it. I hope youre happy with it, and that you love and cherish it as if it were your own child, because it is something help you out in times of doubt and keep you warm and cudly when no one else is around to care for you. so treat it well, and dont take it for granted, because lord knows it is the greatest gift that anyone could possibly have.

 

thats the first thing i agree with you on



ors, if you know it, express your fugin opinion and spare us the supreme being complex

 

it must suck to be a dumbass and to get offended whenever someone who knows more than you posts their opinion(s). i'm sure he's explained this thread multiple times.. i can remember of atleast one other time. if you're gonna bitch at him, bitch at the threadstarter for not searching the forum for a similar thread before posting. fucking insecure babies.

 

maybe its just me but it sounds like youre the only one here who got offended by anything

Im not quite sure what you tried to say there either... did you post in the wrong thread by accident?

what he was trying to say is that he has a needlessly large amount of knowledge about guitars and guitar related products, and inherently knows more than us

I just got the impression that cut-out guitars were one of those "special" things that companies think they can overcharge for, like when a guitar costs $300 more for being a different color or for being made in the U.S.A., as opposed to being made in Mexico with the exact same parts

 

no, not the wrong thread.

perhaps if you'd read around this forum you'd know that george all ready answered the original question.

 

no one was bitching at anybody. even if I were, why would I bitch at the thread starter? this thread is already off topic, hes not even involved in the conversation.

is it wrong for me to not have gone looking all over this forum, in order to confirm that the question relating to the subject of this thread (which was obviously not posed by myself) had already been answered, just so I know not to reply to the thread starter as punishment for violating the "thread search rule"? who would have though that George already went around spreading the important message: "ACOUSTIC GUITARS ARE THE SAME AS ELECTRIC GUITARS", anyways? not to say that it matters at all that this thread has been repeated again, since it was carrying on a semi-relevant conversation.
anyways, the "original question" of which you deem so important was not even involved in the conversation... it seems to me like you just wanted to get mad at something, Mr. Internet Tough Guy

next time if you dont want me to give you such a dense reply, stop directing those poorly worded, irrelevant statements and petty insults at me

I like that one. its got a cute ironic twist

 

you learn faster with an electric.. but thats just learning the finger movement. you dont really learn what your actually doing and playing when you speed learn. i started with acoustic and i think it was a good thing because nylon strings require you to really play and not be sloppy like an overdrived electric guitar might stimulate.

at any rate, i reccomend one to start with an acoustic then decide to get an electric

 

As for Fender, if it was made in mexico in the Ensenada plant really makes no difference to me than if it was made in Corona, CA... I don't really like touching fenders that aren't reissues and signatures, except of course for MIJ/CIJ. I do play a poplar standard strat which I like just fine, but I'd never buy an american standard. I can't take non-tinted necks, poly finishes, and three ply pickguards enough as it is, hell if I'm playing more than $350 for one of those things.

Or better yet, fuck fender and get an '83 or so Tokai Springy/Breezy sound or Love Rock... talking electrics.

If you buy from a shop, it's often that the color will not be extra. I got a les paul in Cherry Sunburst, they only had it in ebony, so I ordered it. It was supposed to be a plaintop, but it has a good amount of birdseye. Musician's Friend generally charges the shit out of you for that kind of thing...

If you've ever built or seen a guitar built, you would know why they charge $300 for a cutaway... it's quite simple... it's because it's a fucking pain in the ass to do, but then again, I'm sure that doesn't really matter if you're a mass producing company unless you bend the sides by hand and then assemble it on the assembly line. I could understand that.

I think I've just about had it with newer Fenders. I should just get rid of all my shit and get an entire new gear set up.

 

And besides... acoustic guitars are and are not the same, it just depends on how you want to look at it.

To me, they're not, I consider them two different animals both from a luthier's and player's point of view. If you're primarily a lead guitarist on electric, you'd probably have enough skills to learn to play fingerstyle, depending on if you don't mind being pickless, if you're primarily into rhythm on electric, you'd probably be more likely to be a flatpicker. If you put in that cutaway, you're going to be losing volume, but sacrificing tone and volume for a guitar that's moreso playable. Step one is understanding where the sound is in a guitar... It depends on the shape of a guitar, if you're playing an OM/OOO with a cutaway, you could have a lot less treble and a lot more bass than you would want and as guitars of that shape lean towards fingerstyle players, that's not a very good thing... Aside from that, most electric players don't have the slightest clue about altered tunings except for maybe Dropped D. Hand an electric player an acoustic tuned to DADGAD, I'm sure it'll still take a while to learn. It's the same way with slide guitar. I used to have a habit where the only time I could ever seem to play slide is on my acoustic, but I've been doing Open E on my electrics moreso. I developed lead playing with my index, middle, and thumb in Open E and G now. It takes awhile, but I've been watching the allman bros. peakin at the beacon dvd and learning a lot of Derek Trucks' technique.

With dreads, it really doesn't matter a whole lot... I play bluegrass festivals with a Martin D-35 and there's really no need to amplify.

 

i dunno bout u guys but i like hollowed bodied electrics. like bluesey. i like whining and crying.... no chugging for my ears.

 

george....how the FUCK does a 15 year old get so smart. i hope your playing ability is anywhere near the amount of random crap you know

 

I really can't take chewy tone... you know what I mean... Robert Cray sounding lead runs. I like Robert Cray a lot, my dad went to high school with Robert in Newport News, Virginia, but I just can't seem to play with that chewy sounding tone he gets from his CS non-trem strats and '93 Vibrokings... I like to roll way down on the tone and use second or fourth position on Jose (hah, I was calling it jade, but I love using mexican strats because I don't worry about them breaking. They're fun to play with and re-wire insanely... I put a Rio Grande and a Gibson Burstbucker in a pool routed Jose (I actually call all mexican strats that now) with a lindy fralin and a texas special I got off of ebay and I got it all to fit. I had switches all over that thing and it got twice as many tonal combinations than Brian May's self-built Red Special... lmao. Anyway, if you get a good processor or multi-effect system, it can help. I often like to use my Fender Cyber-Twin... I wired some old waisthigh JVC speakers to it (purchased from the thrift store with a busted speaker in one, I put a spare celestion in it) and some old subwoofers. I hook it up A/B or both with a Twin Reverb and use the Vintage Stack, it's just as powerful as a Marshall Plexi half stack or on the Blues Combo setting, two bluesbreakers. I use a les paul with that and I have a tone that could make Eric Clapton piss his pants in a nanosecond.

 

the action's usually higher off the fretboard on an acoustic -- makes playing difficult if your finger strength isn't developed -- go with electric my friend, until your fingers get used to the board

 

Got the guitar today. Acoustic.

 

cool. Acoustic, I think, is more enlightening for playing on your own- electric is great, I play both, but you can't really play electric very satisfactorally without jamming with other people.