Drugs and your views on this subject

My view on drugs is that they are a tool for people to use to ain insight on whatever they want. They are no more dangerous than a knife and alot less dangerous than a chainsaw.

Before i took drugs i was f*cked up and now that i take them (mostly weed but shrooms and MDMA every now and then) i have sorted my life out. At the start of my taking of drugs i was very confused and thought that my life had f*cked up even more but through MDMA especially i have found that the thoughts in my head really do make sense and i have since left college to go into thatching or carpentry. Also drugs helped me discover my hippie nature. I say discover because i have always been antiviolence and i've never beaten anyone up or even harmed wildlife before.

In conclusion i would say take drugs if you want and dont take them if you don't.

Cheers
lionface

P.S i think i will also have to confess to taking drugs every now and then just to get f*cked and i don't see a problem with doing that occasionally. After all, whats a little escapism?

 

IMO, mind expansion drugs are not for everyone. Some people are not mature enough for them, I think the Ego has to be properly developed before they are used. (I don't mean Ego in the vain sense, I mean the development of the Self.) As these drugs can wreak havok with your Ego, having it developed, and strong is essensial. From what I know about Child Development and Psychology (having a degree in each) I don't think Ego developement is ever near complete before the age of 18 or 20. I waited until after this age (I think I was 19) before trying halluncinagens. I read Leary and other experts in the field and prepared myself.

I still didn't like them much. I'm pretty obsessive about self control and I fought it the entire time, every time. Like I said, they are not for everybody. I didn't damage myself in any way (maybe if I had done it younger I might have, but there is no way to tell.) Well seasoned trippers (even my dh) have said if I did it more, the control issue would dissolve, but I didn't want that. Everyone is different.

I think reading Leary, and his ideas about Set and Setting and others in the field (whose the guy? The Day of the Dolphin, Altered States dude? Damn, I can't remember, but his writings on Psychedelics are really good.) is a good idea. I don't like the Keasean "acid test" approach. JMO, though. Not for a virgin tripper, it is just too casual. OK for people who know what they are doing (and fun, too) but not for a first timer.

Make sure you are in a good mind. Think about what you want to learn from the trip, have an experienced tripper with you, just in case, and also to guide you, if you get scared or lost (an inevitablilty, if you get good acid) and make sure YOU want to do it.

Also anyone with serious unresolved neurotic issuse, or latent psychosis should be VERY careful with these tools.

JMHO.

 

anyone can write songs.

 

Well said Maggie Sugar. I think that also was what I was trying to say about ego development and drug use also.

 

i am currently reading a book about psychedelic music...maybe you have heard of it but i read that there are people that take psychedelic drugs way too much and ruined their lives. syd barrett, brian wilson, and roky erickson. they all took to much acid and had to quit their bands. don't get me wrong i love acid and shrooms and all that good stuff but i believe that you should only take them when you are looking to get away from reality and all the bad things that go on in this faulty world, or when you're looking to get your kicks...the only psychedelic drug that isn't really bad for you is weed...the only bad thing about it is that also like other drugs it puts you in the risk of being busted, as i have experience when i got busted with a pipe, a pill (that wasn't mine) and of course some grass

 

I'm against the usage of drugs. They fuck up your life believe it or not, but if that's the path you wannna take, go right ahead. It's not my problem or my life....

 

No, people fuck up their own lives. Drugs dictate nothing.

 

youre such a hippie...

how do you know if they fuck up your life if youve never taken them?

 

drugs are used in hospitals EVERYDAY, helping people! How do they ruin peoples lives? Your pretty damn dumb (UN-HippieFlowerGirl67)

 

You just have to remember that it's life first...drugs second. They should be used to enrich life, not escape from it. When it gets in the way, it's abuse.
I personally love being on cloud nine in a variety of ways & I respect people that don't. Spirituality or casual use...sal good. I do mind if a 12 year old is doing meth though, heh. Sorry Chuck, but geez, man.

 

I think that drugs can be a great thing if you use them in moderation, and for the right reasons. It's really easy for them to be a weapon against you, but that usually only happens when you're abusing them to begin with. If you're only doing them because you think it makes you look 'cool' or something, or you're trying to conform to some clique, then you'll probably end up messing yourself up, because they do have potential to do harm. But if you're just using them as an occasional escape, or something through which to understand things, maybe to express yourself, not too much bad can come of that.

"I believe in a long, prolonged derangement of the senses in order to obtain the unknown."
- Jim Morrison

 

i think drugs can be good things. I havent used acid or mushrooms to escape reality since i was 14, now when i use them i just laugh at reality. Trippin is the shit and it always will be. I only take psychedelics about 3-4 times a year and it has gotten pretty old being used for enlightenment, but i still love the feeling it gives ya and the thoughts.

 

Druggie or drug free, do what you wanna do and don't step on the next Persons toes for being him or herself! I myself have met alot of cool people that were on both sides of the fence. To judge them just on if they do drugs or not isn't cool. But more of how well can this person handle the drug! Do they dope up constantly or once in a while have a little fun. Me personally anymore couldn't be around a 24-7 junkie! You gotta moderate! Take it sssslllooooooowwww! Fine a different game to play other than, "who can kill the brain cell faster?". But if thats one of my friends choices thats all I can do is give my opinion, but it doesn't mean I won't hang out and burn one with'um once in a while!

 

Precisely Vendetta. Well said.

 

well I'm no doctor or anything but when drugs are used in hospitals that means the person being treated has a need for them. it's a competely different story if the person taking the drugs is fully healthy.

but my view on taking the drugs themselves? I don't see anything at all wrong with it. I've tried just about all the drugs out there (minus smack and all the other real shit). and I have to say that I didn't use them responsibly. eating a half oz. of dried mushrooms was a really really bad trip. I completely lost my senses, to the point where it was no longer enjoyable or enlightening. and five e pills was just about as stupid to do as well, although I can't say it was a bad trip, just more of a painful joy type of feeling. if this is the way people would do drugs then yes their lives could very well be ruined. but the truth is most people probably don't abuse drugs to high extents. well except for the drug addicts. I've stayed away from these types of drugs for the last little while but I do intend on taking them again, the reason for this being is to tap into the enlightening powers of the drugs. the main thing, as already mentioned by Maggie Sugar, is to make sure you're mature enough for them.

in the mean time I stick to a j or two per day

peace,
Robi

 

drugs can be good and bad. Everything in life, including drugs, should be used in moderation. Anything can be used responsibly. Anything. I'm living proof of that. Know what you're taking, how much to take, how long it will last, what is dangerous to mix with it, and that you are in the right mind set. Maturity and resposnibility have to be a part of your personality if you're going to use drugs. If you aren't, there are endless problems that could arise.

Anyway, to anyone who disagrees with the usage of drugs, that's fine, but live and let live.

 

hey all! I totally agree with headymoechick and Vendetta!! The problem i have is with people who have never tried drugs and judge the people that have as low lifes.

 

I dont think someone should fry their brain cells on chemicals

 

Drugs can give the most amazing and mystical experiences, to be fair these experiences can be experienced without the use of drugs. Comsuming somthing is the easy way to attain these distorted states of mind. Cannabis 4 me is the best drug of them all, it heightens perceptions and helps people so much in so many different ways! It even helps my juggling, im able to think of new tricks and new movements by being high on THC.

Being responsible and being safe with drugs is the most important thing. Know what you are taking and know how much to take and try and get advice from experienced users. I find taking mushrooms is best when taken outside. I can then feel connected with nature, which is uber cool when taking something which is so natural in its self.

 

All y'all have already said what I was going to say. Responsibility, moderation, and natural highs. Though I might try acid. Maybe.