I believ contraception should be used alot more, you looik at the worlds over population and whats its doing to quality of life and the invoroment you can see what i mean, but i believe relationships are more important so: Research has proven that a man can chose his partner based partly on her scent and visa versa, here is how this works. when it comes to imunal system, in order to give your child the greatest imunal system you must have your child from a partner with oposite genetic imunal charactiristics. There are 6 main imunal genes (or 6 in total, not too sure) and if you have imunal gene a,b and c you want to pair up with e,f and g. Now, how you instinctivly do this is through smell, if a partner has exactly the same genetic makeup, shances are you will dislike his natural scent and instinctivly be pushed away from it, but if it is exact oposite, instinc will get you likeing it because we have evolved to recognoze the best partners for strongest babies. What the pill does, is it reverses this, so if you have gene a,b and c; you will want to pair up with someone that has a,b and c and dislike e,f and g. im not too sure if this is true and have not done any reasearch into it. However, if you met someone and then later went on or of the pill, then your relationship lost its chemestry, this may be an explanation
most women dont take the pill as a birth control.. they take it cause their periods are really bad or to control them...
I have hears about something like that. Not about that imunesystem things though. I heard that due to the hormones in the pill, a womens scent is changed. Just like being pregnant changes the scent, or other conditions. An this fact can, but doesn't have to be in the way of a healthy relationship, because we choose our partner also by scent. Or women are chosen for their scent.
I wouldn't say MOST women go on the pill for period regulation, but the Pill does have MANY medical benefits.
Someone's already hinted at the anti-pill propaganda issue - 'research' will produce whatever results the researcher (or person with the gun to the researcher's back) wants it to, particularly so in this instance bearing in mind the social climate with the AIDs problem and Catholic anti-contraception 'rules'. It's an interesting suggestion though, one worth checking out I think.
WTF...I AM right.... I was put on the pill at 14 cause of my awful heavy periods.. its also a treatment for ovarian cysts... YOU DONT NEED CONFIRMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well thats interesting, but the point of the pill is to control periods or prevet haveing children....
I have heared about that theory some years ago and I believe there is a lot of truth in it. It is based on a study about how smell effects partner choice done by a swiss researcher called Wedekind. There are certain genes (MHC genes) that determin the smell of a person and naturally women are sexually attracted to men that have different MHC than their own and feel a brotherly/fatherly connection to guys with similar MHC. This is nature's way to prevent inbreeding and to ensure to breed children with a strong immune defense. When women take the anti baby pill their preference for a guys smell changes and they are attracted to guys with similar MHC, which results in a biologically speaking wrong choice of partner and the children these couples get will be weaker and have a lower immune defense than those of couples with different MHC profiles. Here are some excerpts taken from an article about the study: It was found, by Wedekind and his team, that how women rate a man's body odor pleasantness and sexiness depends upon how much of their MHC profile is shared. Overall, women prefer those scents exuded by men whose MHC profiles varied the most from their own. Hence, any given man's odor could be pleasingly alluring to one woman, yet an offensive turnoff to another. ---- The Swiss researchers found that women taking oral contraceptives (which block conception by tricking the body into thinking it's pregnant) reported reversed preferences, liking more the smells that reminded them of home and kin. Since the Pill reverses natural preferences, a woman may feel attracted to men she wouldn't normally notice if she were not on birth control--men who have similar MHC profiles. The effects of such evolutionary novel mate choices can go well beyond the bewilderment of a wife who stops taking her contraceptive pills and notices her husband's "newly" foul body odor. Couples experiencing difficulty conceiving a child--even after several attempts at tubal embryo transfer--share significantly more of their MHC than do couples who conceive more easily. These couples' grief is not caused by either partner's infertility, but to an unfortunate combination of otherwise viable genes. Doctors have known since the mid-1980s that couples suffering repeated spontaneous abortions tend to share more of their MHC than couples for whom pregnancies are carried to term. And even when MHC-similar couples do successfully bring a pregnancy to term, their babies are often underweight. You can read the whole article here: The Smell of Love
Interesting, but deoderants and perfumes pretty much completely cover up natural scents anyway so I don't think the pill will be the cause of weak genetics. Also the amount of unhealthy foods that create toxins in our body that then are released probably cover up those scents on anyone unless you haven't gotten off in a few years. ...hmm I suppose hippies and health conscious people will eventually take over the world.
no offense, but how is anyone supposed to take this seriously, or be willing to believe or take this advice or facts or whatever when you dont seem to even know how to spell IMMUNE system?
first, an unwanted pregnancy would be much more of a relationship strain than going on the pill. secondly, the o.p. mentioned that this might explain why relationships sour after the girl goes on the pill. yet, we have no way of knowing whether this was due to what the o.p. said about the pill, or if it might have to do with just the natural deteroriation of a relationship over time. our hormones do effect our pheromones, for example a woman releases more (or stronger, i'm not sure which) pheromones when ovulating than at other times. and the pill does prevent ovulation. if you're only attracted to your partner when she's ovulating, the relationship isn't going to last, reguardless. i would like to propose that the pill actually IMPROVES relationships. the stress of a potential unwanted pregnancy is relieved (at least 99% ). if the couple is tested and clean, they might go without condoms (not that i'm recommending cessation of condoms once one goes on the pill or anything). periods are much more managable and predictable, and if there were ever a reason to support reganomics/trickle-down economics, this might be it... not economically, but insofar as one partner not being in pain, helps the other find relaxation easier. i don't just mean that it reduces pms and as such reduces moodiness (because the pill can have [sexually]depressive effects, too). the pill also treats a plethora of medical problems. if my partner is in good health, this makes me happy. if he is sick, i'm concerned. it is possible for the pill (like any medication) to cause duress in a relationship... but only if it's causing problems for the person taking it (or if her partner is morally opposed to her taking the pill). for a minority, the pill can trigger marked mood changes and changes in the sex drive. but this isn't true for all of the women taking the pill. also, different pills have different hormone levels, and finding the right one can assuage potential problems.
First, there are natural ways of contraception, that are preventing pregnancy and they are as safe as the pill when used correctly. Secondly the main issue isn't really what happens to the relationship when you go on the pill, but rather what happens when you choose a partner whilst on the pill and then decide to get a child with that person and get off the pill. It is proven, that couples with similar MHC profiles have more difficulties receiving a child in the first place and if they do receive they have more problems with miscarriages and that children who have parents with similar MHC profiles are usually weaker than those of couples with MHC profiles that are very different from each other. Since women on the pill are more attracted to men with similar MHC, whereas naturally women are attracted to men with different MHC from their own, one can conclude that the being on the pill is biologically speaking leading to a wrong choice of partner.
i don't think anyone said anything negative about other methods of contraception. i have nothing against natural ways of contraception. rather, i meant that any form of contraception is better than none at all. i never said the pill is the best or anything. (shrug.) so you're saying that a woman will be attracted to different men when she is on the pill, then when she is not on the pill? because if that's what you are saying, you are absolutely wrong. i've been on the pill on and off over the years, and my attraction to certain individuals did not change depending upon whether or not i was on the pill. i've shared mutual attration with a few individuals before i ever took the pill, while i was on the pill, after i stopped taking it, while i was back on it, etc etc. as in, i am attracted to an other, he is attracted to me, and none of that was impacted by the pill. my "choice in partners" (and their choosing me, as well as their interest) has not been effected by the pill whatsoever.
@lawngirl I am glad to hear that you haven't got anything against natural contraception methods. I have manythings against the pill though and in your earlier post you were very much sounding like praising it, sorry if I misunderstood you. How you can say that I am "absolutely wrong" is a mystery to me. I wasn't merely making some loose speculations, but was referring to a scientific study as well as to my own experiences and those of a couple of friends of mine. Did you check the link I posted and read the article? Anyways, you are either an exception or the intervals you had between on and off the pill weren't long enough to make a noticeable difference. Of course there are other factors that make a person attractive than their smell. Some girls choose their partner by the amount of money he has in his bank account. What I am speaking about is natural functions of our body, which we, although our civilisation is trying hard to overcome nature, still posess and are effected by.
