Do You Believe in Reincarnation?

yes and if you dont, dont worry, you will in your next life. LOL

 

i believe that people who believe in reincarnation will be reincarnated. i kinda believe in it. i don't know who i was, but people say i pull towards the american civil war period back when i was obsessed with jesse james and outlaws and things like that.

 

I dont know who I was exactly, but I do know I was alive from the years 1951-1971. I learned this through dreams I had.

 

I think that when you die you return to the 'Life-Force' as another person.But you would have no inclination of this life.
If life is 'Re-cycled' in nature;- why shouldn't it be in humanity?.
I am even quite sympathetic with the much derided notion of: 'Heaven & Hell'.I can well believe that we are being judged by the supreme being for our suitability for the next existence.

 

i don't think really believe in reincarnation but i have deja vu all the time. it's really weird.

 

I think it is all another excuse to make our lives that one little bit more intresting.. Nothing Ever Realy Dies (like that hip hop group N.E.R.D) ..but 'afterlives' 'reincarnation' i don't think so .. Your body turning/decaying into diffrent 'matter' making up say part of a strata of the place your buried, Yeah thats about it.

 

Although I dont remember any past lives I do believe in reincarnation. I think that we reincarnate in order to gain experiences and learn things that one physical life could not grant us.

 

KARMIC DEBT has a part to play i believe. i believe that whilst living in each lifetime we are paying off our karmic debts from a previous life . therfore trying to make amends for the wrong doings we may have commited in our previous life "and learning to become more and more spiritual.

 

dejavu " a sense of being there before although you know that you have not been there before "as it is the first time you have visited that certain place .hmmmm could this be a sign of a past life you have lived ? you decide.

 

theres me thinking i might meet you in the next life matty lad" nevermind .

 

I absolutely believe in reincarnation, and I'm about 80% sure I know who I was, although I can't really prove it. I have tried psychic dreaming of sorts, where I've dreamt (what I believe) to be past life memories.

 

I was probaly one of those dudes in black doing all the persecutions...in a prev' life. In the next life i will be fully indoctrinated into the belief system of the masses i assure you (just for punishment/karma/whatever).

Oh i had dejau vu about all this, or was it my short term memory getting confused with my long term memory.. ?.

 

time for a holiday me thinks dear boy.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ta ra

 

I think that you have a lot of insight there, and I would like to expand on your remark.

While I don't believe that anyone really knows for certain, I do tend to believe in reincarnation for the following reasons.

First, I have a hard time in understanding how some people can be so much more spiritually mature, even somehow finding the strength to go through terrible situations, unless we have more than one lifetime to work it out. It then makes sense, especially if different people have different degrees of experience with past lives, in the same way that an adult who is twenty is considerably more mature (I hope!) than a child who is ten.

Second, I not only have picked up some of my own past lives, but (a) I have corroborated some past-life information with acquaintances of mine, to the extent that we seem to be on parallel courses at various times; (b) knowledge of some of my past lives has allowed me to understand some of the karmic circumstances in my present life.

I also see the process of going through multiple incarnations, as opposed to one long life, as important because it detaches us from material possessions and worldly status at the end of each incarnation ("You can't take it with you"), and it gives us a chance to experience a broader range of the human condition.

Some people claim that the math doesn't work out in light of the human population explosion. If, however, most people living today are in their very first human incarnation, then the math works out fine. There are several other ways to make the math work, which I won't go into here as that opens a real big can of worms(!)

And now for a bit of my personal experience...

It seems that I was Native American for a long period, up to about 1000 years ago. More often than not, I seem to have been a spirit man or a woman of great wisdom; I was more a warrior of spirit than one in the mundane realm. But beginning about 1000 years ago, during the height of the Dark Ages, my "higher" self seems to have wanted some real challenges, and that is when I started incarnating as European. It seems that I often created a lot of suspicion among the ignorant, just for being relatively more evolved; the last time I was incarnated as female, a little over 300 years ago, I was burned at the stake as a witch, simply for knowing more than a woman "should" know.

At the present time, I live a life in which I deal with a lot of depression, but I don't get the impression that it is due to "bad" karma or the like. Quite to the contrary, I, and some other depressed people I know, seem to be very evolved souls, who are taking on advanced challenges that would destroy a less mature soul. This concept, like depression itself, is a difficult one to understand if you've never been there, but it appears that every soul must go through something like this at certain times as part of its maturing process.

The fact that I'm also very intelligent and psychically moderately sensitive, means that I've had the opportunity to meditate on many important issues about the nature of life, and to turn the insights gained into understanding. It appears that my current life is mostly one of learning and understanding; I do know that my opinions and beliefs can change and grow, sometimes very rapidly, and to the point where I have undergone several radical changes in belief over time. I get the distinct impression that my next life will be one in which I will be called upon to be a teacher of some sort, possibly working directly under a highly evolved teacher and master, passing on what I'm learning now, and in the process learning even more. In fact, I seem to be becoming more of a teacher even in this life, and learning new things from that!

I haven't seen too many stories in this thread about actual past life experiences, let alone their bearing on the present; it would be nice to see more of them.

 

No, I believe in recycling.

I suppose if someone could prove that consciousness survives death and the erosion of the brain, I would consider it.

However, this has yet to be done in the scientific (not pseudo-science) field.

So, until that day, I remain unconvinced.

 

You can believe what ever you wish, i have no problem with that. I am just pointing the finger of 'dismisive' at you thats all. I realise it comes across as 'rude' i appreciate that, i did my best not to be rude (sometimes a little difficult.. but you may have been a bit over sensitive?).

I CAN HANDLE IT, i did also share my own honest thoughts earlier, and what i posted in response to your post. Even the very last comment, that was what i was thinking (why should i not share that thought with you ?).

Oh come on, i make a few comments that you don't appreciate.. and you think you have me pegged, your being as rude and closed minded as you think i was being.

Well i am trying anyway dude.

I was, does not seem like you're 'cool with it'

For all my faults and flaws, this is me .. I am not putting on a front, ask paulfreespirit .. unfortunatly this is me .

I apologise if it you think i was 'attacking you' if my honest thoughts spawned this 'attack' then at least we both know were we are..Shall we start again ?

Peace & Love!

 

No problem, Matthew. I have to admit that it was a little hard for me to interpret your intent as something other than an attack, in light of your closing remark (which I quoted in my prior post), and in light of the fact that I really didn't know you. Now that I have a little more info about you, I can change my beliefs about you accordingly, just as you're already starting to do the same with respect to me. I really wasn't intending to come off as a braggart, but I realize now that you might have misunderstood my intentions; just like you, I honestly share myself, and I'm not going to hide what I honestly think or feel.

Now you did start onto something interesting here. Perhaps if you could untangle this a bit by doing a rewrite on it and making it clearer, so that I have a better idea what you're driving at?

As for the "math" argument, you might want to re-read how I make it work, and then critique that particular angle. As it is, it sounds like you're making a blanket assertion here, without really addressing my argument. The rest of that particular quote really goes with the previous item.

By the way, I'm quite aware of at least the leading alternative theoretical basis to explain the perception of apparent past lives (i.e., that it's all a pseudo-experience); it was advanced, not only by skeptics, but by mystics such as Swedenborg. Somehow it doesn't seem to be sufficient to explain what I've observed. As for "deciding to believe what I want to believe", that criticism can be reasonably leveled at EVERYBODY. If it doesn't get into our heads, we can't experience it; if we can't integrate the experience with the information already there, it doesn't make sense. That's why it's so hard to convince a true believer, regardless of the nature of that belief -- atheists and diehard skeptics can be just as intractable as any religious zealot or political partisan. The only thing that changes such attitudes is an experience that can't be integrated into the old belief system, and yet is too intense to be denied or dismissed -- and argument alone is simply not capable of having that kind of impact.

You might find it interesting to know that while I tend to believe in reincarnation as the most likely explanation, I know enough to take my own beliefs (not to mention everyone else's) with a BIG grain of salt. I am also seriously entertaining several alternatives, and integrating all of my new experiences and insights into every one of those models. The leading contender, in my mind at least, is that everything is either a total accident, or else some sort of sick cosmic joke -- which would turn a lot of what I said earlier into complete nonsense, and I know it. I've explored the matter in some of my other posts, especially in a few of the threads in the Mind Fuck forum.

What is the point in keeping such contradictory ideas going at the same time? I have found that, if there is one aspect of Reality that I can depend on, it's that it is profoundly paradoxical, and no logically self-consistent explanation can ever capture more than a small part of it. This is perhaps what comes of studying both Godel and metaphysics(!) The value of having two (or more) contrary belief systems, is that I can often arrive at completely new understandings by testing them against each other; I've been on the verge of a possible philosophical reconciliation(!) for the last few days now. And yes, it has some profound implications for how I will guide my actions and attitudes in the future.

Sort of like the way that one set of paradoxes led to Special Relativity, which in turn led to General Relativity; another set of paradoxes led to Quantum Physics; and the fact that theoretical physicists have been going nuts trying to reconcile THOSE two theories is itself advancing our understanding even further. So perhaps my approach isn't really all that "unscientific" in the end, at least not philosophically?

Peace & Love!

PS We might agree to have future discussions along these lines in private (or at least start a new thread), as we're veering off topic to discuss such complex matters. We don't want to blow everyone else away! It sounds like both of us do enjoy a legitimate intellectual challenge!

 

if I haven't said it before the math doesn't support it, unless there is a huge die off between now and 2011 we'll have more alive on earth than have ever died in all history.... critical mass