The New World Order Doesn't Exist, Huh?

Take a look at this list of quotes from prominent political people of the past 200 years who have alluded strongly to plans for a one-world government.

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2/nwoquotes.html

Kandahar especially should get something out of this.

 

Here's part of a profile of David Icke from Wikipedia:

It doesn't get any more ridiculous than this.

 

Icke has some pretty interesting theories.

Try thinking out of the box Pointbreak, instead of instantly condeming something as being "ridiculous" try thinking "what if this are true?" Think of the implications if it is. You have been programmed to discredit anything that is not within "the box."

I am not saying I beleive or disbeleive anything Icke has to say, I am saying he is interesting to read.

 

You also need to ask yourself is this source, in this case Icke, mentally stable or credible?

 

Slavery and the eight veils http://proliberty.com/observer/20011212.htm
by Don Harkins
Over the last several years I have evolved and discarded several theories in an attempt to explain why it is that most people cannot see truth -- even when it smacks them in the face. Those of us who can see “the conspiracy” have participated in countless conversations amongst ourselves that address the frustration of most peoples' inability to comprehend the extremely well-documented arguments which we use to describe the process of our collective enslavement and exploitation. The most common explanation to be arrived at is that most people just “don't want to see” what is really going on.

Extremely evil men and women who make up the world's power-elite have cleverly cultivated a virtual pasture so grass green that few people seldom, if ever, bother to look up from where they are grazing long enough to notice the brightly colored tags stapled to their ears.

The same people who cannot see their enslavement for the pasture grass have a tendency to view as insane “conspiracy theorists” those of us who can see the past the farm and into the parlor of his feudal lordship's castle.

Finally, I understand why.

It's not that those who don't see that their freedom is vanishing under the leadership of the power-elite “don't want to see it” -- they simply can't see what is happening to them because of the unpierced veils that block their view.

All human endeavors are a filtration process. Sports is one of the best examples. We play specific sports until we get kicked off the playground. The pro athletes we pay big bucks to watch just never got kicked off the playground. Where millions of kids play little league each spring, they are filtered out until there are about 50 guys who go to the World Series in October.

Behind the first veil: There are over six billion people on the planet. Most of them live and die without having seriously contemplated anything other than what it takes to keep their lives together. Ninety percent of all humanity will live and die without having pierced the first veil.

The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, be active and have an opinion. Our opinions are shaped by the physical world around us; we have a tendency to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the second veil.

The second veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.

The third veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the third veil to find that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation upon which the world's economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fourth veil.

The fourth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.

The fifth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil.

The sixth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil.

The seventh veil: I do not know what is behind the seventh veil. I think it is where your soul is evolved to the point you can exist on earth and be the man Ghandi was, or the woman Peace Pilgrim was-people so enlightened they brighten the world around them no matter what.

The eighth veil? Piercing the eighth veil probably reveals God and the pure energy that is the life force in all living things-which are, I think, one and the same.
[What I found with experiencing "God" is that Creator set up this reality, everything is part of his plan, a plan where negativity was created as a teacher (using the Reptilians , Demons& Lucifer etc as the bad guys, with Satanism as their religion]. Read Robert Shapiro for a bigger picture. I found that out before I went through the third veil so I don't believe you need to go through the first six veils before 7 & 8.---Whale.to Editor]

If my math is accurate there are only about 60,000 people on the planet who have pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond them as insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.

Adding to the irony, the harder a “sixth or better veiler” tries to explain what he is able to see to those who can't, the more insane he appears to them.

Our enemy, the state

Behind the first two veils we find the great majority of people on the planet. They are tools of the state: Second veilers are the gullible voters whose ignorance justify the actions of politicians who send first veilers off to die in foreign lands as cannon fodder -- their combined stations in life are to believe that the self-serving machinations of the power-elite are matters of national security worth dying for.

Third, fourth, fifth and sixth veilers are of increasing liability to the state because of their decreasing ability to be used as tools to consolidate power and wealth of the many into the hands of the power-elite. It is common for these people to sacrifice more of their relationships with friends and family, their professional careers and personal freedom with each veil they pierce.

Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of “Our Enemy, the State” (1935), explained what happens to those who find the seventh and eighth veils: “What was the best that the state could find to do with an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to poison one and crucify the other, for no reason but that they were too intolerably embarrassing to be allowed to live any longer.”

Conclusions

And so now we know that it's not that our countrymen are so committed to their lives that, “they don't want to see,” the mechanisms of their enslavement and exploitation. They simply “can't see” it as surely as I cannot see what's on the other side of a closed curtain.

The purpose of this essay is threefold: To help the handful of people in the latter veils to understand why the masses have little choice but to interpret their clarity as insanity; 2. To help people behind the first two veils understand that living, breathing and thinking are just the beginning and; 3. Show people that the greatest adventure of our life is behind the next veil because that is just one less veil between ourselves and God.

 

So you're saying it's possible that Bill Clinton is a lizard and Queen Elizabeth II is a satanist? At least you're honest about your gullibility in even the most ridiculous conspiracy theories...most of your colleagues try to distance themselves from these more fringe ideas.

Nevertheless your post reveals how conspiracy theorists are willing to blindly accept any theory, however bizarre and impossible, that matches some element of their world view.

That's all I have to say on this subject. Frankly I'm tired of this debate because talking to you people is like talking to a brick wall. I'd rather discuss real issues with intelligent people.

 

A chill wind blew, driving tumbleweeds across the plain. Somewhere in the distance, a dog barked...

It is not accurate. The result should be 6,000. You have not pierced the mathematics veil.

Thank you and long live the shape changing reptilians.

 

the thing about icke is his ideas do sound completely insane, but in his books he provides so much research and background information that it seems very possible. if one were to ignore ickes reptilians and read his research about the illuminati i dont think they'd completely brush off everything this man says.

 

I find it rather sad that you have to resort to attacks on the author's sanity rather than fcusing on the material, Pointbreak/Kandahar.

David Icke is not insane. Insane people don't create well-written, researched and documented pieces of work.

I'm not sure about Godhead, but that was during a period directly following his experiencing a kundalini. I'll leave you to look up that one on your own. Icke gives an explanation of his strange behavior in the beginning of Tales From The Time Loop, one of his books.

And Kandahar, if you don't like to talk with us "unintelligent people", how about you go and read some of the safer threads, yes?

 

This was my favorite one; it made me laugh even more than the lizard/alien/dragon one.

Are a few people written off as insane, because they see more than others do? I suppose so. Are many more people written off as insane, because they actually are insane? Most definitely.

 

Yeah, I think I will. I just couldn't resist commenting on the "veil theory." It's so ridiculous that I can't believe that anyone could possibly give it any credibility at all. I can't even come up with a more outlandish theory in my imagination, which I guess just goes to show that gullible morons will literally believe ANYTHING.

 

It isn't a universal law, Kandahar. It's just an idea of the order in which people might discover things. Attempting to decide whether it's true, or even calling it a "theory", is ridiculous.

 

You could've just as easily been describing a dogmatic religion there...which, in a way, I guess you are.

But it isn't ridiculous to decide if it's true. At the risk of being "closed-minded," I will say with 100% certainty that there aren't any time-travelling lizard-men illuminati controlling the world.

 

100% certainty??? mmmm.

Beleive what you will. I'm not here to change your mind on anything. Only providing a different perspective.

Time traveling is NOT impossible. Try to learn remote veiwing or even astral projection. Read the book Search for Om Sety. Try Journeys out of the body by Bob Monroe. Many more out there.

Both are fairly simple to learn, once you accept the fact that it can be done. First few times is a bit freaky. But fun once you get the hang of it.

 

Nothing is certain, my friend. Our finite considerations cannot begin to comprehend what is possible in the universe. I have a feeling that timetravelling lizards are some of the more mundane goings on.

But in all seriousness, what evidence can you provide to prove that these creatures don't exist? Don't try to turn this around on me ("What proof do you have that they DO exist?") because I'm not saying they exist. I'm saying, what makes you automatically rule it out as impossible?

 

http://www.metatech.org/


try reading the Mars Records. Or at least a few of the articles on this site. I personally enjoy Credo Mutwa (Zulu Shaman). He wrote an interesting article about vaccinations harming psychic abilities.

 

I have to admit that the bit about reptilian people is what makes it most difficult for me to take Icke seriously. It's going to take more than footnotes to get me to go along with that.

 

Bill Clinton is a lizard now? Wha???


(this fucking place gets stranger by the day)


The Former President of the United States?

 

This reads like the "X-files"....

http://www.darkgovernment.com/extraterrestrials.html

 

Bill Clinton shape-shifting????

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/clinton-shapeshift.htm

It really doesn't matter if a person beleives or disbeleives in any of this. If they are there, then they are. If not. Oh well. Beleiveing of disbeleiving is NOT going to change anything.

But it sure makes for some interesting reading and discussions!