New Florida Gun Law as National Model

Join Date: Mar 2003NRA Uses New Florida Gun Law as National Model

Prosecutor warns "Stand Your Ground" law will be used as road rage defense.

A Florida law has become the NRA's model for legislation in other states, according to the executive director of the NRA's Florida legislative affiliate. The new law, which expands on pre-existing rights to shoot residential intruders, recognizes that everyone has "the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force" if they believe it's necessary to avoid death or serious injury. Those who kill or wound will have immunity from criminal prosecution and civil liability.
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I hope more states adopt similar laws.




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so if someone cuts in front of me while i'm in line while i'm at wallmart i can run to sporting goods,buy a gun and blow them away.How cool is that?Maybe they'll have loaners on hand.i could go into gardening and pop a cap at anybody picking flowers.Go into produce"hey man those are my f...ing cherries"or "hey i saw that dress first,it's mine".i mean is Little Bush hip or what?!!!Just think,no more bad haircuts and that waitress had better bring my order on time.What a wonderful world it would be!Two kids in the backseat"mommy,Billy keeps hitting me,,"blam.!!Peace and quite..

 

From this moment on, I shall no longer claim FL as my ancestral home.

I'd rather be from France.

 

you could be shot for saying that...

 

Apparently, at least in FL, I can be shot for much less.

 

Gawd......someone's being plain ol' stoopid.

 

i could do the same with a aluminum bat with same fatal result or just a plain kitchen knive. idiot.

 

in your state it sounds like you cant shoot back so your just as fuck.

 

Sarcasm is "stoopid"?

 

But remember, in good ol' FLA, if your kid falls out of his highchair and bruises his rib, that is Child Neglect and will get you 2-15 in the State Pen.
Of course the Child Protection Agency down there gets $900/head/mo for their cases, the cops, unfortunately, get no more pay for asking questions at a gunshot crime scene than not.

 

Round here it is.
Many take sarcastic comments for Gospel especially when it concerns firearms/politics.

Doubts?
Read a bit n you'll see...

 

Florida is not the only one most states have some form of angency for kids. they do the same for a dog or a horse in New York. im not intrested in what cops make at all.

 

..or give them a nasty paper cut.Wet willies can also kill if done improperly so therefore i conclude that all weapons of mass destruction be legalized.Okay boy genious when was the last time we had a drive by knifing or seen the headlines"School terrorized by bat carrying students"Of course there was the Martin Luther King assination,didn't they use a stapler.Your argument is stupid and deserves sarcasm,nothing more.

mom?

 

Why is your kid falling out of their high chair?I always watched mine.He never fell out.

 

Florida is proof that cocaine causes paranoia...


Who drew this silly mustach on the furrer?

 

lisen fuck face just in the end of 2004 we had 2 rampage killing with aluminum bat in this city alone so go fuck your self.

 

A 13-year-old boy appeared in court in Sylmar, Calif., on Friday for a brief hearing on the charge that he killed 15-year-old Jeremy Rourke with a baseball bat in an altercation at a youth baseball field in Palmdale, north of Los Angeles.

The youth, whose name was not released because he is a juvenile, appeared before Los Angeles County Juvenile Court Commissioner Jack Gold.

The boy was represented by attorney William McKinney, who asked for more time to prepare a defense.

Rourke was struck once in the knee and once in the head during a dispute at the Palmdale Pony League field shortly before 8:30 p.m. Tuesday, authorities said. He was pronounced dead later that night.

The case will remain in juvenile court. Under California law, children under 14 cannot be tried as adults. If the charges are found true, the youth could receive a sentence ranging from probation up to commitment in the California Youth Authority until age 25.

As witnesses watched helplessly Tuesday night, the 13-year-old player in the snack bar line allegedly grabbed an aluminum bat from his equipment bag and clubbed Jeremy in the head.

Bystanders, including his father, rushed to Jeremy, a former Pony League all-star who lay unconscious on the ground. Jeremy was taken to a nearby hospital, where he was pronounced dead a few minutes later.

The 13-year-old, witnesses said, looked stunned. He was still wearing his red Angels cap when he was interviewed by Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies. Some bystanders said the dispute appeared to involve one of the boys cutting in line. Others said Jeremy was teasing the boy, who had just lost a game.

"Jeremy apparently said something like, 'How could you lose to a team with no wins,' " said Jay Croom, a Pony League parent. "I don't think Jeremy's intention was to start a fight."

"The other kid was apparently a very competitive kid who plays very hard. What you call a gamer," Croom said. "He was already upset at losing, and this probably fueled his fire."

 

In November of 2001 Alex and Derek ran away from home for a week and lived with Rick Chavis. After they returned home they continued to be unhappy and finally, on the night of the 25th Derek killed his father with an aluminum baseball bat and then the boys set fire to the house.
After the boys were caught they confessed to the murder but later recanted and said that Chavis had done it. It was discovered that Rick and Alex had had a sexual relationship and Alex considered himself gay. Chavis was arrested and charged with sexually abusing a minor and obstructing justice (he’d hidden the boys from the police for several days).

 

PALMDALE, Calif. - A 13-year-old boy allegedly killed another teen by hitting him in the head with a baseball bat during an argument at a concession stand after a Pony League game, authorities said Wednesday. Images:Baseball Beating Death

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Jeremy Rourke, 15, was pronounced dead at a hospital after the Tuesday night attack, said Brenda Shafer, a spokeswoman for the coroner's office. A homicide investigation was underway, but the younger boy had not been arrested, said Don Manumaleuna, a sheriff's spokesman. Authorities said the boy was detained after the incident.

"He just didn't realize it, it just happened and before you know it and then like I say, I told him, 'What did you do, why did you do that?"' parent Sam Cordova said.

"I could see it in his eyes that it was starting to sink in, oh my gosh, what did I do?" Cordova said.

The nature of the argument was unclear. Authorities did not know whether the boys were spectators or members of the baseball teams that had played.

The Palmdale Pony League field has a sign promoting sign-ups for boys 5 to 14 and encouraging parents to "Protect Our Nation's Youth."

The city is about 40 miles northeast of Los Angeles

 

SEATTLE - A King County Superior Court jury on Wednesday found Glen Sebastian Burns and Atif Rafay guilty of killing Rafay's parents and sister in suburban Bellevue in 1994.

Following a six-month trial, each was convicted on three counts of aggravated first-degree murder, concluding a legal odyssey that began when they fled to Canada two days after reporting the deaths.

Because prosecutors agreed not to seek the death penalty in exchange for their extradition from Canada, Burns and Rafay, both 28, face life in prison without parole - the only other possible sentence in Washington for an aggravated murder conviction.

As the verdict was read, Burns, who once described himself as one of the smartest human beings alive, shook his head from side to side in disbelief. Atif Rafay held one hand to his head as he listened to the three guilty verdicts against him.

Tariq and Sultana Rafay and their 20-year-old daughter, Basma, were beaten to death with baseball bats on July 12, 1994, four months after they moved from Vancouver, British Columbia, to Bellevue.

Prosecutors said Burns wielded the aluminum bat, while both he and Rafay planned the killings for money: The two were arrested in Vancouver in August 1995, the same month that the family estate, valued at about $300,000, was turned over to Rafay, who had just completed his first year at Cornell University.

Lawyers for Burns, who is Canadian, and Rafay insisted throughout the trial that the two merely found the bodies when they returned from seeing the movie "The Lion King," and that police had wrongly focused the investigation on them to the exclusion of other suspects.

But Royal Canadian Mounted Police planted bugs in the defendants' home and car - tactics that would have been illegal in the United States but legal in Canada - and agents posed as gangsters to obtain taped confessions from the two before arresting them.

Canadian authorities refused to send them back to Washington state, however, as long as there was a chance they might face the death penalty. King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng agreed in 2001 that he would not seek their execution, and the two were returned.

The case continued to take bizarre twists, with Burns being assigned new counsel after King County Jail guards reported seeing him having sexual relations with his lawyer, Theresa Olson, in a jail interview room.

She lost her job with the public defense agency she worked for and has been practicing civil law.

The Washington State Bar Association will consider sanctions against her in a hearing this fall. Though she previously admitted having jailhouse sexual contact with Burns, she now denies it.

Burns' new lawyer, Song Richardson, sought to bar the videotaped confession from trial, citing the RCMP's tactics. King County Superior Court Judge Charles Mertel allowed it, on the grounds that if the methods were legal in Canada they were admissable under international treaty.

During the trial, Richardson told jurors the undercover officers posed so effectively as gangsters that they thoroughly frightened Burns - then still in his teens - into giving a false confession.

The triple murders were the first homicide for Bellevue Detective Bob Thompson. He said he waited 10 years for this day, but after hearing the verdict, he said, "You know it's kind of sad. Three people died that day and two boys with promising futures lost it all. It's not a happy day."