Salvia is it really that great? I dont think so-

I've "tripped" on salvia a couple of times and I've found that it isnt that great, mabye its just me but salvia seems like a waste of time to me when you spend 20 for one gram, i'd rather spend 30 on and eight of shrooms that outlast salvia by so much, and the effects or way way greater, why waste the time-----
-keep in mind im not putting down the drug, im trying to understand why people think its so great-
-i love all drugs, i just dislike a couple

 

Well, I have no clue where you spent a whole 20 dollars for one gram, but ... I can get 3 grams for a little more than that much. Also, 1 gram lasts me for 4 or 5 strong trips, when you smoke it right. That is MAD cheap. =)

Salvia isn't for everyone, that's definately true. Are you sure you have a powerful experience, or just a more mild one? If you had a powerful one, I guarantee you you'd think it was MUCH more powerful than shrooms would ever be. Salvia has a reputation for being one of the most overwhelming psychoactives known; it can rip you completely into another dimension.

You should check your smoking technique (check the sticky on this board for tips), and verify that you're doing it correctly.

Also, Salvia isn't for you if you want to feel good or anything. It's more of a meditative and thought-provoking plant than things like weed or shrooms.

Either way, it's all good; Salvia just isn't for some people. =)

 

I tried in once last year when I was back in the states and didn't like it either. It wasn't that I really didn't like it, it just didn't do anything for me. I rolled up a fatty, smoked it straight to my head, holding it in as long as humanly possible before blowing smoke out. Nothing. I was light headed from holding my breath.

I had bought a bunch of it though and so I brought some over to a friend's house who had tried it and really liked it before. We packed some bowls in a bong and did the same thing. We felt it come on a very little bit. It was less of an effect than suckin' nitrous from a whipped cream can!

He said that, like cannibas, salvia can often vary in pontency do to genetics, curing, and shipping. I would like to try it again, but I won't pay.

 

propa salvia trip will spunk all over shrooms - its a wicked drug

 

salvia is sure not great, for anyone who does not know salvia is horrible!

 

how

 

to get twisted, don't choose it

to see the other side of things, none are better

though it does not last very long, this is often a blessing.

 

Only if you don't have an open mind when using this sacred plant.

 

I will hopefully visit Salvia before the summer is out. I have heard people say its not very good on this forum, but f riends that have tried it say it is intense and isnt to be taken lightly. I have a positive mind toward it and I know it will be great for me.

 

The reason why many people often think poorly of Salvia is because the experience IS intense, as you say. It's too intense to be used for fun, or recreationally. It's more of an entheogen than a drug.

 

you are smoking it wrong. you do not smoke salvia in joints. its pointless. you need a torch lighter and a bong and hold your breath. keeep the flame on the salvia the whole entire time.

 

It's more like a really shitty experience. Too short to get anything out of... I don't know what you guys think is intense, but to me is just a strange fucking experience, not intense in any particular way.. And yes I have smoked it properly, and YES i have a very open mind when it comes to drugs. A poster says stronger than mushrooms could ever be... Right. I doubt that person has ever eaten more than an eighth of boomers.

 

It's not just one poster who says that. Many experienced psychonauts say that (while many others also say they don't get adverse effects). Even Dr. Shulgin, a reknowned psychoactive scientist, has become fascinated with the power of Salvinorin-A, as have many others. I don't know about you, but my experiences tend to last 30 minutes to an hour in length, and they are so powerful that I get more from those shorter experiences than I get from longer experiences on other psychoactives.

Also, the exactness of your technique can be paramount. Let me explain.

When I first tried Salvia, I recieved only threshold effects (level 2-3), even after smoking several bowls.

When I learned the right technique, I can now get advanced effects (level 4-5) just by smoking less than half of a single bowl correctly. The material I used was from the same batch from the same vendor. So when smoking using wrong technique, I only got 10 to 15 percent of the effects I would otherwise have gotten with a much better technique.

So you may think that your technique is right, but it might not actually be right. I don't mean to appear to attack your credibility, but I notice that a LOT of people underestimate how much time passes when holding smoke in. The majority of people only hold the smoke in for about 10 seconds, maybe 15, and then estimate that to be "over 30 seconds." Try using a stopwatch or counting from a clock to be completely accurate. And, you do indeed also have to hold the flame on the Salvia for the ENTIRE duration of the hit, otherwise it's more likely to smoulder and you will lose Salvinorin-A content.

And, it could also have been Salvia that is not very potent, who knows?

 

So the best technique is to get some high potent extract, put it in a bong, use a butane lighter, hold the flame over it while you inhale, have an open mind and hold it in a while?

 

Also, use a torch. I've noticed I get more mileage with a torch lighter, because of Salvinorum A's high vaporization rate.
__________________
Religion is the opiate of the people- Marx

 

No, I have had full blown effects, smoking it the way you described. The first time I definately smoked it wrong, but after that I learned how. I've seen others have full blown effects also. Can't talk, walk or anything. For me, it really just wasn't intense in any way, just weird. At the roo we let this guy hit the salvia and he ended up losing all contact with reality, ended up trying to move and falling everywhere, knocking over our grill etc... it fucks you up, but it just isn't fun. Plus, I've noticed a lot of complaints of HPPD symptoms after frequent salvia use...

If you've gotten more out of salvia than drugs like LSD, then you haven't eaten enough tabs.

 

It's not supposed to be fun, in any manner of speaking. Salvia isn't that kind of substance. It's supposed to be a good experience, if you have the right mindset, but it isn't supposed to be fun.

 

I've never used any drug and had FUN. Usually, I get way mellowed out and have deep philosophical thoughts - I s'pose that's my idea of a good time. Personally, I've never really enjoyed tripping with other people because they're all having a good time, and demand to know why I'm not laughing like a madman as well. They don't seem interested in the thoughts I have to offer.

Anyhow, Salvia sounds like something that I would really enjoy.

 

you are definately my kind of person, those are my feelings exactly, except sometimes it gets overwhelming and i cant help but burst out luaughing (lsd) but yeah on psychodelics (which are pretty much the only drugs i do) i hardly move and i just find something to stare at and completely understand everything about it, or attempt to, wether it be a wall, or the sunset its just way better than moving around and laughing and stuff ( ive also noticed that my visuals are much better when not moving)

yeah so that was kindof off topic.. but im sure it probably applies to salvia although ive only done it once and i didnt so much as open my eyes.

 

I'm going to see what salvia has to offer this summer (as i graduate from high school this year) I'm hoping for a meaningful experience, something that i can use in this journey called life...i've heard different things from different people about the effects, of Salvia Div. although I've noticed that all the people i know who have had bad experiences with salvia, usually aproach it with a closed mind, thinking its going to be no more powerful that mushrooms or cannabis...so i totally agree with hikaru zero its all about your mindset and (probably) smoking technique. It is true as well that people have different sensitivities to Salvinorin A and Salvinorin B, so i guess all it takes is a little experimentation to reach your desired effects...it could also be the potency of your particular leaves, or if your using extract maybe try uping to 10x or 20x if you havn't already tryed that