The bible and Muhammed(peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)

can you name another prophet except Muhammed(peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) who had a great nation following monotheism?

During its lifetime right?
No a so easy question

 

He asked for the 3 prophets...

 

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Abraham isn't like Moses either.

In Christian Oppinion, Jesus was G-d in the flesh, as well as a Prophet sent from G-d. ( He was his son, but he also had to submit to him for he was on Earth.), and he wants a personal relationship with his Favourite Creation: human.


So therefore, I believe he's the prophet. But some of the verses you posted do seem to point to him, if one tries to look. ( But not Deuteronomy)
and I don't recall Jesus being asked those questions, however, John the Baptist was.

How about posting the verse where Jesus was asked this?

 

Well... that hasnt anything to do with these prophecies, Abraham(peace be upon him) came before Moses(peace be upon him) remember? Before the torah even was sent down..

Yes, but why would he be mentioned twice. "Are you the prophet, are you Chirst" Two distinctive people.

Foot notes from contemporary english bible: "he Prophet: Many of the Jewish people expected God to send them a prophet who would be like Moses, but with even greater power (see Deuteronomy 18.15,18)". The amplefied bible gives the exact same reference. Interesting...

Not some but many...Lets look at this verse for instance:
“The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes [or: from his right hand went a fiery law for them].”


(New International Version; alternative version of last phrase – the meaning of which is unclear in the original Hebrew texts – is from the King James Version)

"This refers to the three Prophethoods: the Prophethood of Moosa (Moses), the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (Jesus) and the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). “Coming from Sinai” refers to the mountain where Allaah spoke to Moosa and called him and told him he was a Prophet. “Dawning over them from Seir” refers to the appearance of the Messiah from Bayt al-Maqdis (Jerusalem). Seir is a village that is still known there to this day. So this was a foretelling of the Prophethood of the Messiah.
“Paran” refers to Makkah. Allaah likens the Prophethood of Moosa to the coming of the dawn, and the Prophethood of the Messiah after him to the rising of the sun, and the Prophethood of the Seal of the Prophets to the sun rising high in the sky and its light reaching all over the earth. And it came to pass exactly as foretold, for Allaah dispelled the night of kufr with the Prophethood of Moosa, and the light increased with the Prophethood of the Messiah, and was completed and reached everywhere on earth with the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). These three Prophets who were mentioned in this foretelling were also mentioned in the beginning of Soorat al-Teen (interpretation of the meaning):

“By the fig, and the olive.

2. By Mount Sinai.

3. By this city of security (Makkah)”

[Quran al-Teen 95:1-3] "

End quote. See Hidaayat al-Hayaara, p. 110; and Ibn al-Qayyim’s comments on the Old Testament, Deuteronomy 33:1​

My bad for not writing it properly, I meant ofcourse John(peace be upon him).

There is no such verse, atleast not one Ive seen and I havent claimed that there is one.

 

Another prophet who had a great nation from the offspring of Ishameel(peace be upon him). I cant think of one.. Not to mention the great prophecie by Christ him self:

In the Gospel according to John (Chapters 14, 15, 16) ​

“It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor [Paraclete] will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin…

I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.”

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Jesus spoke of the “ Paraclete” or comporter who will come after him, who will be sent by Father as another Paraclete, who will teach new things which the contemporaries of Jesus could not bear. While the Paraclete is described as the spirit of truth (whose meaning resemble Muhammad’s famous title Al-Amin, the trustworthy), he is identified in one verse as the Holy Ghost (John 14:26). Such a designation is however incosistent with the profile of that Paraclete(biggest evidence against this is the fact that the bible says that the holy spirit existed long before Christ, why would he keep on saying "when he comes" etc...) ​

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In the words of the Dictionary of the Bible, (Ed. J. Mackenzie) “ These items, it must be admitted do not give an entirely coherent picture.” ​

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Indeed history tells us that many early Christians understood the Paraclete to be a man and not a spirit. This might explain the followings who responded to some who claimed, without meeting the criteria stipulated by Jesus, to be the awaited “Paraclete”. ​

It was Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) who was the Paraclete, Comforter, helper, admonisher sent by God after Jesus. He testified of Jesus, taught new things which could not be borne at Jesus’ time, he spoke what he heard (revelation), he dwells with the believers (through his well-preserved teachings). Such teachings will remain forever because he was the last messenger of God, the only Universal Messenger to unite the whole of humanity under God. His companions were of different races, cultures and nationalities, thus we see all the other prophets often saying "My people" or "O Israel" but Muhammed(peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) often said O people.​

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"O People .... All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except bypiety and good action.."​

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This is a man whos teachings are forever lasting​

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"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?" - Lamartine​

 

I think Muhammed is in the bible as well:

17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

(King James Bible, Genesis)

The twelve princes mentioned here I mostly interprete as the twelve imams (don't know if that is the right term) that came after Muhammed.

Then, about Hagar:

21:21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt.

(King James Bible, Genesis)

So they went into the desert of Paran, now read what Moses says about Paran:

33:2 And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.

(King James Bible, Deuteronomy)

Sinai (Moses), Seir (Jesus Christ), Paran (Muhammed).

Then I read in some book:

On the other hand Muhammad mentions in the Qur'án the prophecies of His coming made in the Bible (Sura 26 verses 192-199) and states that Abraham prayed for His coming (Sura 2 verses 118-144) and that He was foretold by Moses and described in the Law and the Evangel.

(George Townshend, Christ and Baha'u'llah, p. 32)

But perhaps you have already posted that, cabdirazzaq. Let me know what you think about what I just wrote.

 

Well I'm quite spechless... Had I not known you wernt muslim I would of thought you were. I must say... someone who says muhammed(peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) was mentioned in the bible yet is not muslim..
Now I'm really confused ^^

 

Don't be confused cabdirazzaq

Do you think there is somebody who is coming after Jesus and Muhammad?

Or is it something?

 

That's cool I feel kind of honoured about you saying that. I can see why you are confused, but unfortunately I don't think I can do something about it.

 

Daunted, confused and in lack of words

 

LOL