The Truth of "The War on Terror".

Do some research on Islam, and you'll discover that Maverick isn't too far from the truth.

 

Give me a break would you Maxpower - so you're a bigot too? There are some harsh words in the readings of Islam, but that is ancient history and the majority of these people don't subscribe to such thought anymore. Suggesting that this is valid in the world today throughout the majority of Islam is like suggesting that the majority of Christians still believe in crusades.

 

Read the Koran, it comes straight from the horse's mouth. A friend of mine was stationed in Kuwait for a while and believe me, although they are thankful enough for what we did most of them still look down upon Americans as nonbelievers, "infidels." Non-muslims aren't allowed to walk on certain sidewalks or go into some places, and don't get a lot of the benefits that Muslims do in Middle Eastern theocracies. In some places you aren't even allowed to be a non Muslim.

Given, most Muslims don't adhere strictly to the words of the Koran the same way that most Christians don't adhere strictly to the words of the Bible, but the words are still there and still governing the religion. And Islam is far, far from what we consider tolerant.

 

Maxpower - I am well aware of what it says in the Koran about 'infidels', but like I said that is ancient history and as another post you placed somewhere suggests - most civilized muslims look beyond those 'rules' in the same manner as christians overlook the consequences of missing sunday mass.

That being said, it is posts like this above, where I feel Maverick is a racist. 'not just for extremists anymore'. Where is the corruption? Corruption suggests negative change. The idealogies that are present in the Koran have been there forever - this is nothing new.

Everything he has said suggests a complete lack of understanding of Islam and hatred towards anyone who practices it, which to me is ignorant and racist behavior.

 

It's what happens when ya have a fuckin theocracy. Follow these shitty rules, an follow 'em good, or yer gonna be blugened to death with big fucking rocks.

 

That is why I say "GOD_BLESS_AMERICA!"!!!

United we stand, divided we fall.

 

Exactly. If you want exerts straight from the Koran, I'll give them to you.

 

When the hell have I said that I hate xxxx race? When have I implied that? Just because I dislike a religion, I'm rascist?
What the hell is wrong with you?

 

If you're not intelligent enough to see the discrimanation and bigotery in your posts this evening, than there is zero purpose in my explaining why I think you are ignorant and racist. I find it completely amazing that you are so in favor of liberating a nation of people whom you deem evil based upon their faith.

 

What? Are you kidding me?
I hate the religion, not the people! I care about the people!
Bigotry? When? I hate gay people? Arabs? Jews? Blacks?
The people are not evil, they are mislead. I have a problem with the terroists, not the innocent people around them. When have I agreed that killing innocent civillians is good? Point that out right now.
You're the ignorant one.

Now, back on topic, Islam I think it was....

 

perhaps they hate us not because of their religion, but because of our corrupt social and economic politics towards their countries, which leave them in mass poverty, starving and dying, watching their children die with no food.

maybe that has something to do with their hate of americans?

 

I think you mean that Maverick is prejudiced, not racist.

He does make a point. You cannot be so tolerant that you become tolerant of intolerance. The way the Middle Eastern theocracies run their governments is wrong - I challenge anyone who calls themself a liberal to dispute that. Women can't show their faces, they aren't allowerd to drive, vote, or even go outside without a man or a letter from their father or husband. Non-muslims are treated like blacks were in the segregated South, second class citizens who should be grateful to Allah that He dosen't smite them then and there for being an infidel. Education for girls? Negatory.

Now, Muslims are fine. Muslims are great people. I can't say that I have known many of them personally, but I don't see how they could be much different from anybody else. Maverick never said that he hated Muslims, he said that Islam is a corrupted religion that teaches hatred toward non-muslims, which is not untrue. The fact that many Muslims ignore this letter of the law dosen't change the fact that it's there. Those who chose to follow Islam should do it on their own accord, NOT the governments or anyone else's, and they should also realize that some aspects of their religion are just not applicable to today's society.

 

Or maybe America has nothing to do with it at all! Maybe the UN made all the sanctions. Maybe the UN wanted to keep Saddam. Maybe the UN pursuaded America to pull out last time. Maybe it's the UN's fault.
NOTE: Please remove the "maybe"'s.

 

you seem awfully sure of yourself, for something that cannot be known for sure. but the US supported those sanctions, the US showed no concern, as they usually dont, for other societies (Cuba, palestinians, the 1.5 million that died from the sanctions), and unnumerable others.

 

We don't care about other societies, so we give away billions of dollars of public money every year as aid to third world countries because why again?

 

The US will throw a bone only to societies that either A offer us resources / influence resource needs or B - support american ideals. There are plenty of third world countries that receive very little if any aid from the US. Why is Isreal the largest recipient? The US is very selective towards who we offer humanitarian aid towards.

 

Last time I checked, North Korea didn't offer us any resources or support American ideals, but they get plenty of US aid.

 

I was more referring to African nations where the US has shown a tremendous lack of concern over the years.

North Korea is a bad example and the Aid we send is conditional - we have held up Aid to the country on numerous occasions - so yes there is a political agenda there as well. I would hazard a guess that 90% of the aid offered by the United States are to areas where the we stand something to gain by it.

 

I think the problem with sending aid to African nations is that a lot of the time the government dosen't have any say in what goes on outside the capital city. There are rebel groups everywhere, seperatists and organizations apart from the established governments that control a good deal of the population, but would be hard to send aid to much less get them to accept that aid.

 

This is very true. Much of the barbaric behavior we see in the middle east is even more so present in Africa - mass murders, genocides - horrible tragedies, but it is not in the media's cross hairs. Why because A - these countries have no resources to offer us and B - they do not pose as a military danger to american interests. That is my whole point. I will not argue that our great nation is the largest donator of humanitarian aid on the planet (which we should be as we have the most to give), but the distribution of this aid is highly biased.