is Wicca old or new?

Discussion in 'Paganism' started by Little flower, May 23, 2005.

  1. Little flower

    Little flower Member

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    hiya
    some people say its the oldest some say its very new :confused:
    what is the truth!!??!!??!!??
    please please help!

    thanks!
    xxx
     
  2. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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  3. Baby Fire-fly

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    Wicca has been around for ages and has some very old, passed on traditions, but it has recently become fashionable
     
  4. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

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    The above statement is true, depending on one detail, Whether you consider the 50's to have be 'donkeys years ago' or 'pretty recent in the grand scheme of things'.

    Of course witchcraft itself has been around as long as people, but wicca as a specific enitity was cobbled together some fifty years ago by Gerald Gardner.

    Now all religions have to start some time, amnd there's nothing wrong with that time being fairly recent. Make them relevant and modern.
    But lets not fall into this absurd falliacy of wicca being ye olde and such. It is literally as ancient as my father.
     
  5. Little flower

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    lol. i couldnt get on that website :S.
    are wicca and witchcraft the same?
    sorry im full of questions lol.
     
  6. Sage-Phoenix

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    I couldn't see it either.


    Short answer to your question; no.

    Shall write more later.
     
  7. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Hmmm... funny but I looked at it before I posted it.

    It's been posted here before, it erxplains why Wicca's roots do NOT lie in Celtic Paganism, but are a latent gathering of ideas, as Sage-Phoenix stated.
     
  8. Arachne

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    witchcraft may be an aspect of wicca, but it is definitely a different entity. wicca is a religion, witchcraft is a practice.
     
  9. LotusGem

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    Wicca is about 50 years old. It was made up by Gerald Gardner. Of course Witchcraft and Paganism in general are much older, but the specific religion of Wicca is very new. Hope that helps. :H
     
  10. Little flower

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    thats it did :).
    some say witchcraft is a religion?
    what are your views?
    p.s. that website worked on another website, it was a bit to heavy for me lol.
     
  11. velvet

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    I think it depends on your own definition of 'religion' and what you see as 'witchcraft'. Like paganism in general, it's all about your basic believes and your faith.. some people pray, others do rituals or both.. some believe in 'one universal energy', others divide that up in a God and a Goddess, then there are the people who divide those two main aspects of balance in a lot of smaller dieties (be it from the ancient Greek, Egypt, Celtic or whatever spectrum).. some follow close rules (for example set by a coven), others are solitaire and eccletic..

    The main reason why I'd call it a religion is because it usually exists as persons main view on life, the universe & all that. You will have a hard time finding a born-again Christian who is a 'witch' as well.. or a Jew who's hardcore into witchcraft.

    Just my two cents.

    But don't get to hung up on labels.. don't try to 'fit in'.. been there, done that.. didn't work out. Just try figuring out what your own believes are and then see if there are likeminded people out there. If not, just call yourself 'ecclectic' :p
     
  12. Little flower

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    lol ok thanks.
    the past months i have been wiccan (not initiated)
    but now im looking at the more older paths of paganism, thats why im asking all these questions lol.
     
  13. Little flower

    Little flower Member

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    yeh thats what i see it as
     
  14. gnrm23

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    "we are an old people
    we are a new people
    we are the same people
    deeper than before"

    ~

    (a verse from one of them "neo-pagan gathering" songs, mmmkay?)
     
  15. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    probaly no religion is realy all that old, same for langueges. they both evolve as they will. They did find a conical hat like the one in the fairy tales it was in a 3000 year old kelt grave in western china, there was also representations of ruanic figures, then theres a earth mound pyramid in ireland, its older than giza and there is knot work on it. So if we assume wiccan and odinisitc religion have the same origin some put the age at at least 40,000 years. I think alot of that date on the oldest representations of the swastica which is almost certainaly a rune (sizel twice). so you got to figure the real date must be far older. one things for certain tho, they never died out, just hid away for awhile from that all that dessert stuff
     

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