Abortion

How do you feel about abortion? I mean, are you pro-life or pro-choice? Do you believe that, if abortion were made illegal, it would hurt woman's lib?

I am pro-choice.

 

There's a thread about this in Politics.

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6424

 

to me, fetuses arent people. they arent alive, they cant think for themselves. so if the fetus thing doesnt care, then why should we? thats why i just dont get all the pro-life people. i think that every person should have the right to their own medical descision, especially ones involving kids.i am totally pro-choice. can you imagine if every woman who got pregnant had to go through with it??? there would be a helluva lot more kids in foster homes. it would be terrible. what about the women who get raped? do you think they want to keep the damn thing if they got pregnant? if people are against abortion, then they just shouldnt get one, they should take that away from everyone else. if someone really doesnt want the child, then why should they have it?? come on, people!

 

just a warning for some, if you do go to that thread in politics on this topic; someone has posted some gruesome pics.not cool

 

umm so what if there is already a thread in politics this is womens rights so its posted here ok ya lol.. I agree to it to a certain extent..


peace
chickens

 

If abortion were made illegal, women would be in trouble! Things would go back to the way they were, what with black market street abortion. Women definitely deserve the right to choose, and I don't even think that men should have a say in the fight for abortion. This is a women's issue, and that's it.

 

I am pro-choice for a lot of reasons. My main reason is because so many children are brought up in loveless families. So many children are abused because the mother gave birth to a child that they didn't want. It's so easy to say that you can put up a kid for adoption, but not everyone has access to that option. Also, orphanages (sp) in America are as full as ever. There's a chance that the baby will never be accepted.

What if the baby is born with Taisaks, or a painful disease like that were they have no chance of survival anyway? Do you really want to put a child through that? Do you really want to put the family through that?

I'm not saying that abortion is the only option. Abortion is not for everyone. I'm not even sure what I would do given the situation. However, I fear an America where that option is not available. We've tried it before, and it didn't work out too well.

 

i am pro-choice. what i cannot stand is when people say "it is just a bunch of cells" or "it does not become a person until it can survive outside the womb". this just... is so wrong to me. life begins at conception, how can it not?

 

i am pro-choise, for the fact that i should not be able to tell another mama what to do with her body...i personally wouldn't have an abortion, but thats me, and who am i to say that someone else can't...its not my body

 

AMEN! i agree completely.

 

I look at abortion from a biological fact standpoint. Technically, "life" does begin at conception...but a fetus can't live outside the womb before the fifth month, so I have no problem with abortion before then. I do have a problem with late term abortions. It's fine if the baby is dead or if the mom's life is in danger but other than that it's wrong.

 

Obviously if you have sex you're going to have a child somehow... Maybe even with birth control... Better you should now... Idiots.

 

I think this is all I will say because issues such as this that I feel strongly about, and that I know I will not be changing anyone's mind on are not only stressful for me, but they waste my time.

There is just nothing peacful or loving about killing anyone, anytime. Regardless of other options, or whether or not the child could live outside of the womb.

(Though, if my baby was taken from me and not cared for she would not live, just like a fetus being riped from it's mother's safe womb - or cut up into little peice and then removed, or what have you - nature has placed that child in your womb and then into your arms for protection, because that is the only place that they will be safe and able to grow, so OF COURSE they won't live if you take them from that!!! Duh!)

Killing and/or stoping life from completely forming just doesn't make sence from a peace loving hippie point of view. It's senseless killing.

Spread the love around. Be peaceful and non-violent.

 

I am a male, but I do have my own opinion. I'm not for, or, against it. What I mean is, there are situations were it maybe neccessary to have an abortion. Such in case of health issues, or incest and rape. Personally at the age of 23 I made a choice, and that was to have a vasectomy to eliminat any chance of a unwanted pregnancy. Now some same I made the wrong choice, and that is my point here, WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE OUR OWN CHOICES in life. I made mine and I live with it.

 

What are then, then?​

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Brush up on your biology.​

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How much thinking does a newborn do? Are they not human, either?​

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Kids in foster homes are older kids who’ve been removed from their parents by the state. Infants are another matter entirely; there is no problem placing them for adoption.​

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This accounts for less than 1% of all abortions.​

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Again, this is not the case with infants, who are in short supply with respect to adoptive parents.​

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Such "mercy killing" was very popular in 1930s Germany.​

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See http://www.roevwade.org/myths2.html.​

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Good question.​

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Well said!​

 

i used to be totally pro choice, from a 'its her body let her do what she wants with it' point of view, but being pregnant myself changed my view, as it brought home to me the fact that its not just the womans body, its another persons life in her hands. a 12 week old foetus is very much alive, i had a scan at 11 weeks and was amazed to see the movement and amount of development there. i can feel my baby move now at almost 20 weeks, it can hear my voice, scratch itself purposfully and no end of other things and to think that i could still choose to kill it now makes my stomach turn.

i have had a very difficult pregnancy so far and have been in hospital, i know that pregnancy can be very hard, but in most cases if a woman does not want a child she doesnt have to have one. contraception rarely fails if used properly, and if a woman knows she would abort any pregnacy she should take the neccesary precautions. i know there are exeptions such as in cases of rape and i have every sympathy for someone who has to go through double the trauma by carrying an unwanted child, but there is the morning after pill, and no need to be pregnant. if that fails too then there is a need for abortion then but i believe the limit should be 12 weeks. 3 months is plenty of time to make that descision.

in the case of the foetus being ill or deformed, in cases of severe deformity it may be the most compassionate thing, but i still believe nature should take its course. i dont think we should have the descision to end a life because it would be traumatic for us to see or deal with.

its my opinion that when it comes to human life no one should have rights over someone elses, i respect all the views put forward here and understand where they come from but i just cant agree anymore. (dont want to get into arguments with anyone, just posting my thoughts)

love to all.xxx

 

Just a word of warning, if anyone cares: don't go to the main page of that site. It downloaded and installed something onto my computer.

 

How does one know if someone can think or not? I don't think that thought can really be measured. I know that nerves can be measured. I know that almost from conception a child has the nerves necessary to feel pain, and I know that they work. Something tells me that a child how can feel pain would in fact care. Just a thought.

 

I never understood why some people use the argument "If government bans abortion, they'll just happen in the back alley with a clothes hanger!" Thats such shoddy logic.


I'm mixed on abortion. I dont really want to take away the right of an abortion from any women, but i do have a hard time with it being right morally. Then again, what is moral about a kid growing up in an impoverished home who has little to no health care, lives crammed in a tiny apartment and doesnt have a dad? Not much.

However, i do think men should have more rights in abortion. Now, i dont think any man should be able to force a woman to either 1) have an abortion or 2) force her to have the kid....but, i think if the mother wants the kid, and the father doesnt, he shouldnt have to be responsible for it. Unfortunately, the only one that loses in that situation is the kid, and not the mother...

 

That's outlandish. Allowing fathers to duck their responsibility like this just increases the pressure on mothers to abort their babies.

Susan B. Anthony put it well:

"Guilty? Yes. No matter what the motive, love of ease, or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent, the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed. It will burden her conscience in life, it will burden her soul in death; But oh, thrice guilty is he who drove her to the desperation which impelled her to the crime!"