The "Unhelpables"

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by sodabandito, May 19, 2005.

  1. sodabandito

    sodabandito Member

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    About a mont ago, I decided to scrap my life and take on a new one. So, I quit my meaningless mini mart job and started roaming around. I was originally going to hike through parts of Canada on kind of a spiritual journey. To make a long story short, after a pretty cool, week long adventure, I ended up back in my hometown of Lebanon, Ohio....which I have affectionately named "the Vortex".
    It seems like this place is almost inescapble. Now, I have no "real job" and am pretty much homeless.

    These things don't really bother me that much right now since I dont have any kids, or anyone else for that matter. Since I am alone in life, I decided a while back to try and help anyone that crossed my path in some way or another.

    Recently I got involved with some hellacious drama, that wasnt even my own, and am now at my witts end...and to think I was bored with life!!

    All that being said, and since I don't want to ramble, I just have a question for anyone who feels enlightened enough to reply.

    Is there a such thing as a person who is "unhelpable"? I mean can someone be too fargone in a particular direction? and, if so, how can I muster the strength to walk away....and escape the "Vortex" once again?
     
  2. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    That is a really really really good question. I'm trying to think how to answer that but I guess in reality it depends on whether at the current moment I am seeing the cup half full or half empty. I have a tendency to do both.

    I guess if I knew the answer to that, my life would be a lot easier. Sometimes I feel that I myself am "unhelpable".... at least that no one else can help me but myself. I feel that if someone REALLY!!! WANTS help or change enough they will do it for themselves and for no one else.

    But, no.... I don't believe others can do it for anyone.
     
  3. guitarslinger

    guitarslinger Schwa

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    Just start walking, if theres nothing there for you whats so different about any othere place
     
  4. NaykidApe

    NaykidApe Bomb the Ban

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    I don't know if it's a matter of being too far gone in a particular direction so much as it is an unwillingness to change direction; "In the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on".

    If you're trying to walk a path, you can help people you meet along the path regardless of what direction they're headed in.and you can especially help people who are trying to walk the same path in the same direction.

    But if you go back to fetch someone walking in the other direction suddenly you're walking in the same direction that they are.
     
  5. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    profound, nakid.
     
  6. alex714

    alex714 To the Left

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    i think that sometimes, or maybe too often, individuals become doomed to live in somewhat destitute conditions that seem helpless and overbearing since there is so much to endure, especially the bleakness
    maybe its a question of who or what is controlling your enviroment and if you have any hand in it
    would be a nice idea if you did, but its rare that free will in such a pure form would exist, since you feel like this place is such a vortex
     
  7. interval_illusion

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    well, sometimes people get so used to making their life a living hell that they know nothing different, dont BELIEVE there could be anything different for them, and live that out..... it's comfy there at least.
     
  8. alex714

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    yeah i agree
    it almost becomes a form of self-prophesising
     
  9. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    yep. it's very hard to get out of. old habits are hard to break.

    btw, alex- how the hell you been girl????
     
  10. interval_illusion

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    you cant teach an old dog new tricks


    (but the old dog can teach himself) ;)
     
  11. alex714

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    im alright, thanks for asking
    was away for a week, hence my absence

    but im back
    looks like this place is still going to crap though.

    how are you trish!
     
  12. interval_illusion

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    yeah this place... haha

    im good... eh, you know. im alive. :D

    check yer pm's biotch.
     
  13. sodabandito

    sodabandito Member

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    Naykid Ape....Interval illusion....alex714

    Thanks for the input, like I told a friend of mine, hairybuckeye, it always seems like life is full of double edged swords. I truly do believe though that ANYONE can be saved. Unfortunately, I dont know how. And I also know that if I become doomed, then I cant help anyone else.
     
  14. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    Dear sodabandito,

    Sorry about editing your writing. It's a brevity thing.

    I just wanted to offer a reply to your question. Please feel free to tell me whether or not it's an enlightened reply.

    So,

    Everyone is "helpable." Whether or not your efforts are rewarded with any positive change or anything like graciousness, gratitude, acknowledgement or even any feedback at all, well, that is a whole other issue.

    Of course, it is best to help others for its own sake. No good act is ever wasted. You know this is true, even if you never see any positive results. No good act is ever wasted. At the very least, you know you are a spiritually healthy human being when you can help others without any expectations.

    As far as the "Vortex," I don't know the details, but I am sure a large part of the problem is that too many other people (parents, teachers, maybe even the person you're trying to help) have just "escaped." If you find the missing but necessary inspiration to resolve the problem (who knows?) then you may be surprised by the effect it has on everyone.

    Let me know how it goes.

    Peace and Love
     
  15. dilligaf

    dilligaf Banned

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    nudeebuttmunkee pretty much said it soda er yoda er whtdafukkever yer now called,,,, all i can add is " when one assumes the role of victim, it sheds them of responsibility and decision making"
     
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