No offence, the hair debate, and things on my chest.

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by VanAstral, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. VanAstral

    VanAstral Member

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    Hi! I generalize… and I stereotype. I really do. Why? Because the world is too grand, too diverse… It is not our (or my) duty to examine the individuals, but the species… to remark on general properties and large appearances. I only display the prominent, striking features because I am but one human and unable to define ever other single human. Got it?
    In the past I’ve said things like “'tis swell to see so many clean and sober youths, future leaders and factory workers, so vehemently opposed to narcotics, all the while suckin' on their paxil and big macs, TV and knowledge provided by people who want your money.”
    Of course not everyone sucks on Paxil and big macs, but many people do.... it’s a common generalization. If you don’t take paxil, big macs, watch much tv, then please move on to the next thread, knowing good and well that I am not talking about YOU, much less trying to offend you. If you are offended or feel any personal insult, please, I urge you, explore it to your own benefit. ....

    To the hair debate, I don’t wanna be another brick in the wall, but this multiple-decade-long debate is silly.
    There have been no reasonable answers as to what is being expressed with long hair… please, provide me with reason so I can see your light, that’s all I ask.
    Here’s my light: As Josie said: Length of hair is a “Personal and harmless expression”. Aye. (In general terms, of course... maybe there’re natives who put much emphasis on hair length, but most of us aren’t natives. Please, WORK WITH ME!!!! )
    I feel as though you don’t want to cut your hair because you don’t want to be told what to do… you are rebelling… you are a rebel, the stereotypical rebel has long hair, yeah? (stupid fawkin’ stereotypin’ aye!)
    I think you’re risking a loving relationship because of this harmless expression. Is your hair worth it? When you run away are you going to eat your hair, will your hair provide warmth in winter? Let’s see….

    You feel more free, with long hair, someone said? Well, shave your head, and then save money on shampoo. That’s as close to being free as I can see.
    I’m also hearing: You lose a part of yourself when you cut your hair?
    Do you lose a part of yourself when you cut your coloured toenails too… and do you cry about that too? You know you lose a part of yourself when you have a bowel movement, eh. Do you wish to be constipated?
    I’m also hearing: about abusive parents – an attempt at garnering support from sensitive hearts -Ugh.
    Dopesickkid says it like it is: until ribs are cracked don’t be crying over threats. Large, male, authority figures are very threatening, I know, but often they’re nothing but stupid puppies. Be strong, man. When it becomes physical, things in this society can and will be done on your behalf.
    I’ve heard this: Youth have minds of their own, youths are people, and that youths should have rights.
    If you’re eating and safe from elements, you can achieve a great deal… don’t sell yourself short, and quit examining that which you don’t have. You have many rights, young one, all those wars in the past, they weren’t fighting and killing for fun. Pay attention in school, dammit.
    Someone said not everyone is an artist, not everyone can express themselves in a creative manner.
    I’m gonna have to say that that is wrong, and that you must have attention deficit syndrome. Your talent doesn’t magically appear, and it doesn’t immediately produce genius. I can’t play the piano, but if I had one, in a year I’m sure I’d be pretty good. Try try try again, said all my friends on sesame st.
    Umm… Long hair? I can see why one would want long hair: the girls in that Long Hair thread have admitted their attraction to long hair; we all know many girls are attracted to rebels. But do you want to be considered attractive because of the way you look, the clothes you wear… kinda sounds like yer swimmin’ in shallow waters aye. Those whose opinions matter don’t mind your appearance. I thought it was common knowledge: physical attraction initiates a relationship; your mind/personality is that which the foundations of long-lasting relations are forged. I dunno… Appearance. You wish to attract, and to be attractive. We all do. Christ, I wish I was a hottie… I mean, who doesn’t wanna get it on with hotties? If you’re hot, please, let’s get it on. It’s too bad I look like a monkey… I’ll take what I can get, and I’m happy with what I get. Anyhoo…. for any type of relationship, however, we gots to be cool with each other. And I’ve said it before: many many people out there, and many of them are dumb-asses. Shallow people fit in that category.
    Age old debate, man, nothing remotely original or creative is being “expressed”, in regards to the attachment of lengthy hair. Maybe parents are aware of this - the lack of expressiveness in their rebellious child - and maybe, let's try this, parents only want what’s best for their child, and maybe what's best is to get a job and live in western society’s oh so comfortable domain. Really, it’s not so bad… and chances are, that’s where we're all headed anyway.
    Keep in mind… I’m not trying to be a brick in the wall.
    What else… kill the fucking cows, kill them violently, I don’t care, just make sure hungry people are eating them.
    Joe says kills the fucking Mexicans, then kill the fuckin Mexicans. OR, use your head and realize words only convey messages, it’s up to you to choose what you think is right. Joe’s a good guy because 1000 hippies are boring. You need a war to make things memorable. Diversity is an interesting city, routine is a boring route. Embrace Joe.
    And btw, I’ve met a lot of people in my day, even worked at a couple of newspapers, and if there’s one thing I've learned it’s that no one likes people who correct grammar and spelling. Communicate first and foremost; make it pretty if you’re selling it.
    I love you all, you figments of my computer's imagination: grow your hair long and be free and have sex and drugs and rock and roll, love not hate, I dunno...
    easy, tigers. cheerio!
     
  2. joe

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    I say bravo, encore!
    By the way im not really racist, i just knew i would get bashed for saying something UnHippyish

    I applaud you, "Young Hippies" needed this and you supplied it, hopefully someone can actually learn here
     
  3. daturastolemysoul

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    and hey sometimes you just need to say the word faggot
    i really like gay people and would not stop myself from falling in love with a man but boy what a sound
    "FAGGOT"
    i dont even care what it means it just sounds good
     
  4. marymicrogram

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    I think length of hair is just another way to seperate the genders. People have such deeply ingrained ideas of what a man or a woman should be that when someone goes against even just one of these rules, it makes them uncomfortable. Case in point, the idea that men should have short hair and women should have long hair- the normal paxil-sucking masses that see a woman with a shaved head walking down the street will be disturbed just because it goes against the societal norm dictated by the magazines and the idiot boxes that they love so well.

    I see long hair on a man today as a rejection of societal norms. Going out of their way to give a big 'fuck you' to the system and the media that wants them to be punctual with crew-cuts. Just like the feminists of old rejected the gender rule that said that men wear pants and women wear skirts by wearing their blue jeans. That was another societal rule that made no sense- how come you must wear two tubes of cloth around your legs just because of the role you play in reproduction? It's the same thing with hair length, what do your reproductive organs have to do with the length of your hair.

    I think that hippies have long hair for a different reason. The counterculture of the sixties was based on being natural and getting 'back to the garden'. So they wore their hair in it's natural state. What happens when you don't cut your hair and just let it be natural is of course- it gets long. So natural hair is long hair. People that try to emulate this sort of natural persona in modern days also wear long hair as a sign of their rejection of the plasticine fashionable world.

    As a result, I think long hair on a man has become more societally acceptable- just like a woman wearing pants has become completely acceptable. That said, frankly Scarlet I don't give a damn how you wear your hair. It's just hair, really, but I do appreciate the sentiment of trying to go against society.
     
  5. LuciferSam

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    Well, on the other hand haircuts aren't cheap. I saved alot of dough not going to barbershops. And I'm both lazy and an inept barber myself so I prefer not to cut it myself if I can avoid it.
     
  6. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    Hear, hear. Not only that, but many people wanted to return to native rituals in the America's, and no one would have been caught dead with long hair had The Beatles not entered the scene. I, for one, let my hair grow out because it's rather expensive to get your hair cut and it just takes effort to keep it looking good (I just wash it and comb it, nothing more).
     
  7. alex714

    alex714 To the Left

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    quote: "embrace joe"

    best idea yet,
    DONE AND DONE
    *embraces joe*
     
  8. VanAstral

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    Merci, marymicrogram, for your thoughtful reply: Namaste to you.
    Joe: I wish you all the tacos in the world: cheers!
    The rest of you: .......................................................................?
     
  9. Kitaro

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    OH... my... God... so many conflicts just because... a couple of hair??? I mean... come on, what if I shave my hair and look like a skinhead... I AM STILL a hippie!!
     
  10. DazedDreamer

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    well i think long hair can mean whatever you want
    what it says to me is that you look the way you were made i dont cut my hair cause this is how it grows its just me
     
  11. highhippy

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    woah fkin woah, that was kewl, i hear wt ure sayin, n i dont agree wit all of it, but at least u show what u think and can take wot othas say! and just because youre all "hippies" doesnt mean we can be stereo typed, like most people do, and again the long hair thin i think its kewl, but every1 ses hippies have long hair, and its not wots on the outside that makes u a hippy its whats on the outside.
     
  12. acetonephish

    acetonephish lickage

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    highhippy...

    are you mentally challenged??
     
  13. VanAstral

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    acetonephish... (that wasn't very polite)

    if a bear tries to eat me for no reason, can I try to eat the bear?
     
  14. Pobble

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    where I live, even getting a simple hair cut is £20 (thats without fethering syling etc.). Considering the stuff I could buy for people and myself for the £40 a year at least it would take me to keep my hair short, I'd rather just let it grow and stick it under my hat if my neck gets too hot in summer. I don't have to conform to the lastest fashions for my hair as decided by some plastic celebrity with hair mousse for brains- and I'll be damned if I'll try and fit in with the self centered townie pricks around here. so...long hair...yes.
     
  15. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    At times you aren't very polite either. Whose to say. :p
     
  16. acetonephish

    acetonephish lickage

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    i no. it iznt noice 2 knot b plotie
     
  17. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Luuk... i m gud prson. I knot kneed ur spudit conment.
     
  18. VanAstral

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    Me, impolite? You must be mistaking my impoliteness with resolute poise and a liberal sense of humour: I've never replied solely to insult an individual. I may be dumb, but I'm smart enough to reject such immature behaviour, such as asking one if they're mentally challenged... and then to continue mocking that person? That's simply disrespectful.
    The two of you talk about cow feelings, the feelings of cattle, sometimes it sounds as if you're going to cry over the inhumane treatment of food, and yet this is how you treat your fellow man? Your priorities are in desperate need of revision. Perhaps it'll come with age, we can only hope.
    Ever read Irvine Welsh? He writes with a deep accent, very much like this lass from london.
    Of course, I could be taking this far too serious... perhaps yer all just joking around... that's cool. In that case, it is your communication skills that are in need of revision: you're not making yourself clear.
     
  19. acetonephish

    acetonephish lickage

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    The reason why I don't like my fellow human beings...

    is because my fellow human beings are all like you.
     
  20. highhippy

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    yes indeed at hte time of postin that i was slightly mentally challenged, i have however corrected my bad ways, by tellin ppl like u 2 F***k off, and im sorry 2 all of those of u who are nice.

    Peace and love always
     

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