communism and hippies

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Avocado, Jun 16, 2004.

  1. Avocado

    Avocado Member

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    do you thnik being a communist and/or wanting to start a revolution with pot heads and political hippies to over throw the capitalist pigs in washington is a bad thing?
     
  2. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

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    FUCK NO!!!!!!!!
     
  3. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    If you would replace the "capitalist pigs" with "naive communists", then yes.

    -Kate
     
  4. joe

    joe Banned

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    The following highlighted areas must be corrected immediatly for the sake of reality

    Thank you.
     
  5. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

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    FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. Glory to the Sheep

    Glory to the Sheep Member

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    eh... why would u chose communism then
     
  7. BraveSirRubin

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    You know what I think:

    1) You have no idea what communism is.
    2) You have no idea what capitalism is.
    3) You have no idea what a pig eats for lunch.
    4) You have no idea of the clear distinction b/w "bad" and "good", based on opinion.
    5) You do not know that most "potheads" are idiots to begin with and will never "start a revolution".
    6) You do not even know what a revolution consists of.
    7) You've never met any political figuere from Washington.
    8) You smoke pot, which led you to posting this idiotic thread.
     
  8. Philly_Hippie17

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    This Thread is a Waste of Time.....

    Communism -
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.


    capitalism
    An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.


    I Throught ill give you the defintions
    Exuse my spelling Errors
     
  9. Lizz

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    It's people like these that make me ashamed to be associated with Marxism in an way. Just my opinion.
     
  10. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    people have very baised and clueless ideas of what communism is... if you would like to learn what communism really is, i suggest you start reading the communist manifesto and various articles written by marx, lenin, engels, trotsky, etc.

    Communism isn't even supposed to have a government.


    So to answer the question..

    Nope not a bad thing at all!!!

    Down with capitalism!
     
  11. Sage-Phoenix

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    I would, but only to watch it on the news laughing my ass off at the sheer stupidity of it all.

    Can somebody please explain why anyone would wish to impose communism anyway. Considering is has an astronomical failure rate, a blatant disregard for freedom/human rights etc.

    It will never happen anyway, pot head is not exactly synomous with productive individual.

    Mui: Yes I am well aware what Communism is supposed to be.
    I suggest you read about post revolutionary Russian, the social conditions/human rights records of Cuba or North Korea and Animal Farm to find out what it's really about.
    Nothing wrong with a little objectivity eh?

    TTFN
    Sage
     
  12. Floyder

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    The problem with communism is that its early founders never really defined exactly what it was supposed to be. They gave a general outlook of what the end result was supposed to be like, but never really specified exactly how to get there. Alot of it is really just giving workers more say in their buisness, possibly adopting a less from-the-top approach. Maybe just making capitalism less authoritarian. I mean thats the biggest complaint about communism...and it can just as easily be applied to capitalism too.
     
  13. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    ive read animal farm, i have extensive knowledge about the russian revolution, and all sorts of information about cuba and china and korea... just because they call themselves communist, does not mean they are... do they even call themselves communist anymore? seems more like the US does, to give it a bad name...

    edit: plus animal farm has about as much PRO-communist ideas in it than anti-communist ideas.... it shows how it got out of control, and the idea of it was totally exploited and used by individuals...

    there has never been a communist government which did not hold all power within a few people... a democratic communist government would be an interesting thing to see, but it hasnt happened yet... plus, there has never been a communist country that has never been at war with capitalist nations... without the us trade embargo, cuba would be doing a swell job.

    2nd edit: human rights violations are not result of faulty economic system, they are a result of civil rights corruption and authoritiarian power... communism is an economic system, you cannot associate civil rights problems within it... capitalist countries do not have excellent civil rights records either... even look at america...
     
  14. WaitingForTheSun

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    I just see it as extremely unrealistic.
     
  15. Philly_Hippie17

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    This isnt my topic , soo i dont know anything about, soo ill shut up , lol

     
  16. newo

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    Communism is based on "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs". Unfortunately such a system discourages abilities and encourages needs. If human beings were more selfless it might work, but we're not, we expect our rewards to be proportionate to our contributions. It doesn't always work out that way, but capitalism acknowledges the fact that life isn't fair.
     
  17. Avocado

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    thankyou! If we could start a democratic communist government it very well may flourish look at bloody Cuba for instance its been going pretty strong since the revolution and Castro took hold as leader even with the trade embargo, but america has always used trade as a wepon. As far as human rights no matter what kind of government they will always trampled some how if not by government then other groups established in that
    country's underground (i.e Skinheads, The KKK, Neo-Nazis ect.ect)
    Im not talking about using a benevolent dictatorship but having a communist government where the people DO have a say in whats taking place in the government because our government isn't working that great. Wrap your mind around this the people who work 12to14 hour jobs are the people that get payed less and we have people who didn't go to college but have a pretty face and can read and they live in 20 million dollar houses i see a big flaw in this picture and i think something must change thats just me
     
  18. daturastolemysoul

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    Communism is a myth

    period
    in ordernfor it to work humans have to be selfless
    there is no ruler
    no one is higher than anyone else, there cant even be the concept of god in communism.
    its anarcy with an understood moral code that people falllow, and if someone does somethinf against that code just like in an anarcle society the community bands together and kicks their ass. yeah it wont work
    no use searching for a utopia because the main fault in every govermental system is the people inside of it. People are falible. they make mistakes. If you were to over throw the goverment what would happen? DO you think that people would all of a sudden understand taht axioms and ultimate moral code of the world and fallow it to your understanding of the truth? Even if they could such things can work on a large scale
    the only thing that could ever work would have to be a slow transfer of power away from the goverment and back to the poeple, alot of education and possible some brianwashing would be nessisary for such things to function.
    hey i want to burn buildings and bomb cars to bring in the new utopia just like the rest of us, but hey thats not how things work
    realism is a sad thing
     
  19. daturastolemysoul

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    there has never been a true communist state ever
    people may have said they were but they lied
    kindof like how the US isent really a demacratic contry yet they constantly say they are, they are a repersantitive republic, yup
     
  20. VanAstral

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    Your words look like that of a robot... are you a robot? A communist robot?
     

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