What do you feel is more worthy of research? What are some Pros/Cons, nausea, headache, body load, visual, etc. I'd like to hear others opinions on this subject!
I voted 2-i becuase I have tried 2c-e! No nausea no headache, not to sure how I would catagorize body load. I tried it last saturday started with 30mg then 2 hours later I took 10 more and 3 hours later I took 10 more it wasn't until the 2nd supplement to where it started to be something I enjoyed I had eaten earlier in the day so I think that had alot to do with me needing to take to much. I took them in gel caps I had some decent open eye visuals after the second supplement but they didn't last too long since I had taken the original dose 5 hours earlier. This weekend I will be taking more. I liked it over all 2-e is next on my list. Since I found 2-i much cheaper I decided to go with it.
No doubt: 2C-E !!! No wonder, that Shulgin named it as one of the "magic half-dozen". Next time you go to a fireworks- or laser-show, take 10-12mgs of 2C-E about 2 hours before the beginning and a 10mg 2C-B supplement 1h later. You´ll have a wonderful time. (This mixture also works for modern or experimental circuses, like "Cirque de Soleil" or "Flic Flac").
lol, circuses give me bad vibes. I used to dose 2c-e in no less than 22 mg's for myself, but then I realized that I can have a good time on 15, just not as mind blowing. But man, if you can grab a couple good e's, i mean clean rolls that give you some mad eyeshakes, and drop the 2c-e, it will be intense. When your eyes shake, the 2c-e like adds trails and soooo many f'ing colors all around, almost like a visual psychedelic earthquake. It is fucked.
The dose I usually used with 2ce was about 12mg, and I've had some of the most intense trips ever (even if just visually) off of that. I took 18 one time and I felt absolutely retarded for a good 10 hours...but it was fun. Heheh...
I´d very much like to do that, if I ever got my hands on good E again (pure MDMA, no MDA or MDME)... haven´t had good stuff for years (here in Germany it has become very difficult to get good E, most of the time the pills just contain 2C-I, sometimes even really dangerous substances).
Yea, friday night I took so many emilies i lost count, like 7 or 8 probably, then i just threw 15 mg's of 2c-e down the hatch. I went to the pharmacy and picked up some dramamine cause i heard it kills the stomach issues from the 2c-e. It actually worked; I didn't feel the usual upset stomach. The visuals were crazy, I was looking at a pile of broken up weed on a tray, and the whole room around me, each piece of like something i saw became animated as if it was like south park, like everything cut out and pasted in my vision. Then, my friend put on alan parsons project, and this funky ass synth riff starts playing, and I start trancing out. Then, the pile of weed turned into a bunch of little tiny green buddhist statues all piled in different ways on top of each other, and psychedelic patterns are coming out all over the tray. Next, the buddhist statues start flowing and melting, they melt out into tons of liquid color all over the tray, which then turns into a checker design then melts away, then melts bnack to turn back into the buddhists. 2c-e gives me the most complex visuals ever.
You would never get anything near that on 2c-i. Yeah I've had some insane times with 2ce...I want more, lol.
I don´t like taking any meds together with RCs. I use fresh ginger in order to avoid the stomach problems, it works very well.
It really depends on the situation. I would have a hard time in public with C-E. C-I, for me, is more "party friendly". I think overall, though, C-E is the superior of the two. Even C-C is good at the right time, like a concert or something. T-4 and T-2 are good although it can get a little dark. My go to phen is definitely C-E, then T-7, for sheer intensity of experience. "I smoke rocks."
2c-e definitely. I took 2c-i and I felt nothing. I didn't get sleep last nite folks....32 mg of 2c-e... supposedly I lack free will right now, which is true... to an extent... definitely in a dream-state... I will post a little more....
Eh... I am a Datura survivor, almost died a decade ago.... so these phenethylamines are a joke to me. I find 30 mg of 2c-e to be bearable. Definitely, it has more spunk to it than 2c-i. Hah... I had to puke not long ago, but now I think I'm hungry.
What kind of scale you using? BTW, the datura experience and the psychedelic experience don't have very much in common.
I don't understand how you can compare the two experiences. Phenethylamines (the ones we're talking about) offer a psychedelic experience. Datura offers more of a delusional state... Just seems like apples and oranges to me.
We get it from whoever we can. They're psychedelic phenethylamines. You can learn a lot more at www.erowid.org
Actually, since I took in 2c-i on Thursday and Friday, I may have developed a slight tolerance. I plan to wait a week to try it again. By the way, I took a whole third from a bag from a buddy of mine: a pretty sizable quantity. Would you happen to know where they sell affordable scales? I will try 2c-e again. I sense there is some potential with this, especially if I wait things out a bit.