Benito Mussolini

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  1. ( ∞ )

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    Benito Mussolini was a smarter man than our history books will have us believe.
     
  2. yummy

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    why don't you explain a little more about how you came to this conclusion....
     
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    He was a radical pragmatist, and a progenitor of new philosophies. But our history books portray him as a "little hitler", nothing more.
     
  4. goldmund

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    I am going to keep my post short. Just want this logged in my posts to see what he has to say.

    Mussolini made the trains run on time. That was just about the only thing he did right.
     
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    Well, he wasn't a good administrator but he was a good politician and a philosopher. A man Machiavelli would admire.
     
  6. goldmund

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    So then Machiavelli would have been the progenitor. Facism was not a new political philosophy, neither were dictatorships.
     
  7. Antimatter235

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    So....?
    Maybe he was smart and whatnot but explaining your point won't rip your fingers off.
    And I don't think you're the right person for extrapolating Machiavelli's philosophy.

    It's not difficult to find pragmatists in the political sphere in the present. (Obviously) the most machiavellic people look the most innocent.
     
  8. robostiltzkin

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    He sure couldn't fight a war-a must for any hitler flunky suck-up. He invaded ETHIOPIA and LOST! He would have been no-where without hitler, make no mistake. Even Franco had enough sense to distance himself from those two wackos.
     
  9. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    OK, and he was still a fascist. Intelligence is lost if it is not used for the common good.

    Amazingly that's the same thing Marge Schott said about Hitler. And they almost took her basebal team away for saying it. A capitalist says something nice about a nationalist/socialist and the democracy turns hardline communist and strips her of her wealth. Oh how Nietzche would have loved the irony.

    Mussolini didn't look too smart hanging in the street until his bloated body turned black and his head fell off... Evil always has a bad end.
     
  10. goldmund

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    No, he didn't lose against Ethiopia. He brutally crushed Ethiopia by using chemical and biological weapons, aircraft (which Ethiopia did not have), and a superior stockpile of weapons. In 1930, Mussolini and Haile Selassie signed a 30-year friendship treaty during which time both countries agreed not to carry out war against each other. During the next 5 years, however, Mussolini used this time to stockpile weapons, while Haile Selassie thought he had a period of peace to concentration on Ethiopian development and infrastructure.

    Italy/Mussolini was still pissed off ABOUT THE TIME ITALY DID LOSE AGAINST ETHIOPIA IN 1896 AT THE BATTLE OF ADOWA. Since Italy was still fighting against itself and did not become a state until 1861, they had missed out on the whole Americas, African, Asian colonial land grab. Since Ethiopia was a Christian country (they were allowed to purchase arms from Russia under the terms of the Conference of Berlin in 1871) and because there territory was largely mountainous, Ethiopia was became a difficult country to defeat and war with Ethiopia became a difficult war to sell at home (since most colonization efforts were under the guise of "civilizing", i.e. through Christianization, Ethiopia was already Christian).

    Yet Ethiopia/Eritrea was the only piece of land left for Italy in Africa and they were detirmined to nab it. I could go into the details, but I won't. All that needs to be said is that Mussolini was a deciever and a liar. Do you call this intellegence? APART FROM THE WAR AGAINST ETHIOPIA WHICH HE WON, he botched up almost every other military campaign. An annoyed Hitler had to bail him out in Eygpt and in Greece to keep the Allies from getting a stronghold in these spots.
     
  11. Ladylocks

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    The Brains

    1. Jesus
    2. Marx
    3. Trotsky
    4. Einstein
    5. Oppenheimer
    6. Margherita Sarfatti
    7. Henry Kissinger

    All smart, jewish, new thinkers and responsible for death of millions. Margherita Sarfatti was founder of facism and helped Mussolini to power. Without her it woudn't have been possible.
     
  12. Blue Lobster

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    Which particular history books say that Mussolini wasn't smart? Because there are quite a few of them you know?
     
  13. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Exactly what does their "Jewishness" have to do with it? Are you saying that only smart Jews are mass murderers by proxy or that, by pure coincidence, intelligent mass murderers (again, by proxy) also happen to be Jewish?
     

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