Confederate's can kiss my ass!!!

hahaha...Ok I guess I'll stop..."Handle it , Roy!" Boss Hogg on Dukes of Hazzard...all this cause of the confederate flag...see what a positive thing it is...

 

We wouldn't have gone to war if the south would not have tried to leave the union, but slavery was still the reason behind it. Lincoln never owned slaves, his mother and father were part of a church (some branch of baptist, i think) that was opposed to slavery. I don't know why there are rumors saying he did, but you can look it up if you don't believe me.

The flag didn't necessarily represent it, but my point is that like the same way the swastika didn't represent "lets kill all the jews" it was representative of a political party that did just that. The conferderate flag did represent a political movement that was largely based on the oppression of anyone that wasn't a white man.

But for all that's worth, I think we should also can the american flag, since it's basically the same damn thing. Think of all the horrible shit america has done while waving its almighty flag.

It's just a piece of fabric though, and I don't think it means shit.

 

okay, i'll leave it at that, who wants donuts? im buying.

 

what kind? Glazed, powdered, or those gross jelly filled ones?

 

im getting 2 dozen there will be some of everykind. you also forgot to mention cruellers and fritters, and the sour dough kind

 

oh god damn, I love those sour cream ones with the artificial blueberries in em.

If I wasn't stuck at home, I'd have to come rob you of your goods.

 

i have a feeling that refrence has more to do with something shaped as an eclair than a donut.

 

Only because your a pervert...I'm currently allowing my stomach to do all the talking for me...I want a donut, dammit!

 

I hate how people associate that flag with slavery, I've got that falg hanging on my door and I'm Canadian.

It's not like the north wanted to free the slaves... Abe freed them to cut off the man power in the south, slow production and cripple the economy. Anybody remeber that huge ass riot in New York?...

 

Not so much slavery but raceisem (sp) and dont give me that shit that it isnt. I havent meet one fucker who has a confed flag that isnt raceist.

 

And 1 fact for you to point out that the war wasn't all about slavery, the CSA actually outlawed the slave trade in 1863.

 

all rednecks in general just piss me off to no end...
that's why i love freaking them out :X

 

*SNIFF* *SNIFF* i'm going to go buy some skynard RIGHT NOW.

 

besides, it's not like the majority of northerners really gave a shit about slaves. in fact, the idea of freeing slaves freaked a lot of people out. it's not like racism ended at the mason dixon line. it was all about keeping the the crops and taxes within the good ol' union.

 

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Now you are saying that the flag symbolized war. (It didn't.) If you look back before the war you'd see that the flag was there. It was more noticeable during the succession but it was a symbol that was exclusive not the foundation of the war.

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Ty for your time.

 

Well hello! My name is Angela, nice to meet ya. Oh and the only people I'm "racist" towards are stupid people. If your stupid, well then I'm sorry I just wasted my time.

 

Any symbol may be perverted by anyone to justify whatever they wish. People have used the Bible to justify racism and persecution, and people have used it to fight against the very same things. The Klan, which is virtually non-existant, brings a Christian flag to every rally and gathering, but are all Christians racist? That same flag is also displayed in every church I've been to, that hasn't been Catholic. Look at photos from the massive Klan march in D.C in the 20s, thousands of flags, and ALL of them the American flag. The Confederate battle flag, which is what everyone says is the real flag, is nothing more than the Cross of St. Andrew which is reconized the world over as a symbol of struggle and freedom. The Confederate flag is a banner of honor, flown, defended, and followed by poor farmers, former government officials, military heroes, immigrants from Europe, Christians, Jews, Indian tribes, families who fought oppression not a century earlier, landowners, professionals, braver men than maybe you or I. Of the 300,000 who died, only a miniscule pecentage fought to preserve the institution of slavery. The truly wealthy of the Southern aristocracy were not usually seen on the field of battle.
Now, onto this horseshite about slavery being the cause. Study the economics of the United States during the 1850s and you'll find that an economic partnership existed between the industrialized north, and the agrarian South. We produced the raw goods that were refined by northern factories, and then exported for revenue beneficial to the country as a whole. But, who footed the tariff bill? The South. Who reaped the rewards? The north. Surely this must be unfair, in the much praised Marxist sense of the word. Even that paranoid dictator Lincoln admitted that he needed the South to pay the bills, so to speak. People seem to think that the abolitionist movement was this widespread holy crusade permeating every nook and cranny of the "holier than thou" north. One must realize that a free black population is likely to migrate north, in search of a new life and job. Northerners knew that this would impose upon available employment for white men, and no one, north or South, is happy about the prospect of lost job opportunity. An old professor of mine summed it up nicely when he said that Southerners were of the mindset towards blacks, "God bless you and be slaves" while northerners were of the mindset, "God damn you and be free."
One must also realize that while slavery was an accepted, although declining, practice the world over in the 19th century, many Southerners also saw it as barbaric and un-Christian. Just as many Southerners saw the wrongs of the civil rights era as needing to whither on the vine. Regardless of what they may think, it wasn't busloads of spoiled idealistic liberals from New England who changed the South, it was a change born from within, and couldn't have succeeded otherwise. If history has proven one thing, it's that Southerners will not be told what to do. Slavery was never a frontline issue until 1863, when Lincoln arrogantly and illegally emancipated all slaves in any state currently in rebellion. Anyone who criticizes Bush for trying to dictate another country's political policy should look back into American history to where the first Caesar crowned himself in laurels. But this of course did nothing for northern slaves. The benevolent emancipator with the motive of only making a political move.
Racist traitors? Men who took a stand against a evergrowing centralized oppresive government in Washington. A government with no regards for the fundamental principles of the Constitution? A President who censored publications, disbanded civil liberties, arrested without trial editors and politicians who spoke out unfavorably against his administration. A President who forcefully removed the Maryland state legislature and replaced it with his own pickings because Maryland was certain to vote in favor of secession. I thought men such as these would be loved as heroes by people here, just as 15 year old boys with handkercheifs around their faces like they're playing bank robber are praised for standing up for the ideas of individual freedom. Individual freedom is one of the worthiest causes, yet men who've fought for it are labeled racist and traitors because they happened to live in a region during a time where a certain practice was not uncommon? There is not a person alive today, who is not either decended from a slave or a slaveholder, be it 200 years ago, or 2,000. Anyone Italian? Anyone Egyptian? Anyone Dutch? Spanish? African? British? Arab? The list goes on and on, and I think that even as bad as it was, the treatment of American slaves was probably better than historical treatment. So while I do not endorse slavery, I will defend the honor of my family members who died or were maimed under the cross of St Andrew. Had my ancestors who fought in the Revolution lost, and they were thusly branded traitors, I would honor their sacrifices as well. Brave men died on both sides of that war, and every war. Enemies in battle can see fit to honor their foes in victory and in defeat, it's just sad they be cursed by people who weren't there; who judge them by modern standards; and who have no regards for the prices they paid for whatever reasons they fought. That's a lot more than my two cents, but I could be wrong anyhow. Thanks for reading

 

that is very long, perhaps you could sum it up...

 

what.....

 

Ever stop n Think the Feeling's might be mutual?